What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

I don’t see how the weather is exculpatory.

A couple of years ago, it was "Trump says he didn't go because of weather, that's a lie."

Well, yeah, flight was scrubbed because of weather.

Then it was "he could have driven."

I've read that for him to drive, he would have been too far away from Air Force One/Marine One. I have no other knowledge beyond that.

[Jolly]

It's a crock. Unnamed sources saying it happened vs. anybody who was there saying it didn't.

If it wasn't Trump, it would never have been published.

[xenon]

Even if someone named came out, they’d be called a disgruntled liar.

Unless Trump admits these sort of things or says them on tape, they don’t matter.

[Aqua Letifer]

@xenon said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

Even if someone named came out, they’d be called a disgruntled liar.

Unless Trump admits these sort of things or says them on tape, they don’t matter.

Even then, it doesn't matter. Excuses will be made as they always have.

[Klaus]

It doesn't matter whether it matters. And that's why it matters.

[Loki]

In the absence of real evidence this is total bs. Let’s see it because the truth of it is that none of us know if it is true. All we have is what we want to believe. Have fun with an evidence free allegation.

[Axtremus]

@jon-nyc said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

Even FoxNews confirmed the reporting.

[Mik]

Every time this stuff comes out it’s an anonymous source.

[Axtremus]

@Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

It's a crock. Unnamed sources saying it happened vs. anybody who was there saying it didn't.

If it wasn't Trump, it would never have been published.

Maybe the people who heard those disparaging remarks first hand will come out, one or two a week, drip drip drip in the next few weeks.

[jon-nyc]

@Mik said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

Every time this stuff comes out it’s an anonymous source.

No, sometimes it's a former administration figure who then gets tarred and feathered by Trump supporters for being disloyal disgruntled.

[Axtremus]

@Mik said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

Every time this stuff comes out it’s an anonymous source.

Not necessarily. Sometimes there are recordings, like Romney’s “47 percent” recording and Trump’s “grab them by the pussy” recording. Then you also have formal Congressional testimonies (e.g., Vindman) and paper trail (e.g., the Stormy Daniel affair). Even more frequently you have Trump himself publicly incriminating himself via tweets or through broadcast TV (e.g., Trump publicly telling some voters to vote twice in the same election).

[Loki]

@Axtremus said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

@Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

It's a crock. Unnamed sources saying it happened vs. anybody who was there saying it didn't.

If it wasn't Trump, it would never have been published.

Maybe the people who heard those disparaging remarks first hand will come out, one or two a week, drip drip drip in the next few weeks.

Haha. Like any Trump allegation survives the scrutiny of a week. So glad you brought this up. Most your duds here don’t even survive 48 hours.

[taiwan_girl]

If there is a video tape of President Trump proving he DID NOT say it, half the people will still say - " Doesn't matter. He meant to say it."
And the other half saying - "See, I told you so!"

If there is a video tape of President Trump proving he DID say it, half the people will still say - "Doesn't matter. He didn't really mean it."
And the other half saying, "See, I told you so!"

LOL

(My personal opinion is that he probably did not say it. Seems like a strange thing to say. President Trump says a lot of goofy things, but I dont think this is one of them.)

[Horace]

If Trump said something that half the people consider bad and half consider good, half the ones who consider it bad would accuse half the other half of believing it wasn't half bad, while half of the other half would consider their cup half full by saying the other half of the half was empty.

[taiwan_girl]

@Horace LOL

[jon-nyc]

@Horace said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

If Trump said something that half the people consider bad and half consider good, half the ones who consider it bad would accuse half the other half of believing it wasn't half bad, while half of the other half would consider their cup half full by saying the other half of the half was empty.

But before the cup can be half full, it must be a quarter full. But that can't happen until it is first 1/8 full, which can't happen until it is 1/16th full. Eventually you realize you need to make an infinite number of cup fillings in a finite amount of time, which is impossible, ergo Trump hates veterans.

[Jolly]

It's a crock. A lot of the silliness in the MSM, is to cover Joe's softball press conference.

[bachophile]

All this just confirms what I said. Whether it happened or not is irrelevant. What’s painful is that it’s obvious that it’s conceivable.

It’s inconceivable that Biden would make such a statement.

It’s also inconceivable that Obama would make such a statement.

Hey it’s even true that Pence would never say it.

But Donald, yea, he really could have.

[Jolly]

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

[Horace]

I don't always hate Trump for being so hateable. But when I do, I hate him for making me hate him because he's so hateable.