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  • D Doctor Phibes
    2 Dec 2024, 13:48

    @George-K said in Pardoned:

    Funny that Biden is framing it as a political persecution.

    The precedent is set.

    Biden didn't set the precedent. The reason given for Paul Manafort's pardon was 'The greatest witch hunt in American history'

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    George K
    wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 13:48 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Pardoned:

    Biden didn't set the precedent. The reason given for Paul Manafort's pardon was 'The greatest witch hunt in American history'

    Fair enough.

    Biden legitimized it.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • M Mik
      2 Dec 2024, 13:21

      It was so freaking obvious that he would do this once he was no longer the candidate.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 14:31 last edited by
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      @Mik said in Pardoned:

      It was so freaking obvious that he would do this once he was no longer the candidate.

      Agreed. It never in doubt. It was always just a question of timing.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 14:35 last edited by
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        He should never have made all those prior comments denying he'd ever do it, but there you go, this is pretty much standard lying practice.

        The whole process is just begging to get abused.

        I was only joking

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 14:46 last edited by jon-nyc 12 Feb 2024, 14:46
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          What was he going to say? ‘Yeah, I’ll pardon him at some point’? ‘No comment’?

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Mik
            wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 14:49 last edited by
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            Pretty much anything other than a stone guarantee that he wouldn't. 😄

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              2 Dec 2024, 14:35

              He should never have made all those prior comments denying he'd ever do it, but there you go, this is pretty much standard lying practice.

              The whole process is just begging to get abused.

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              George K
              wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 14:50 last edited by
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              @Doctor-Phibes said in Pardoned:

              He should never have made all those prior comments denying he'd ever do it,

              Biden is at the DGAF stage of his career.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                2 Dec 2024, 14:50

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Pardoned:

                He should never have made all those prior comments denying he'd ever do it,

                Biden is at the DGAF stage of his career.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 14:55 last edited by
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                @George-K said in Pardoned:

                Biden is at the DGAF stage of his career.

                So am I, but I don't get the chance to do that kind of stuff.

                I'm sure it will happen to all of us eventually

                I was only joking

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                • G George K
                  2 Dec 2024, 02:38

                  @jon-nyc said in Pardoned:

                  But if you want perfect comparison, neither Uday nor Qusay Trump were convicted of anything (yet) so he didn’t even have the opportunity.

                  They weren't convicted, let alone indicted. So, it's far from a "perfect comparison."

                  The various war criminals?

                  You're talking about Obama, who ordered an extra-judical assassination of a US citizen? He wasn't indicted or convicted either.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 15:02 last edited by Renauda 12 Feb 2024, 15:47
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                  @George-K

                  You're talking about Obama, who ordered an extra-judical assassination of a US citizen? He wasn't indicted or convicted either.

                  For all intents and purposes, I seem to think that Al-Awlaki had already de facto renounced his US citizenship and declared war against the US via his terrorist acts against American assets and citizens. He was, in fact, quite proud of his terrorist actions and made no attempt to conceal his compliance in their execution. He was most vile and Obama rightly signed off on having him whacked with extreme prejudice. His progeny was merely collateral damage. Good riddance to the lot of them.

                  Obama did what any good head of state would have done under the circumstances.

                  Elbows up!

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 15:18 last edited by
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                    Interesting take.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 16:40 last edited by
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                      This will be forgotten before Christmas.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 16:47 last edited by
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                        I hope somebody is keeping track. All of this will have to be repaid during the Trump admin, at 1.4x the democracy destruction power. That's at current exchange rates. They may change.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 17:12 last edited by George K 12 Feb 2024, 17:12
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                          Schiff says, "There ought to be a law!"

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 18:46 last edited by
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                            H/T Improv

                            JONATHAN TURLEY: "President Biden's decision to use his presidential powers on Sunday to pardon his own son will be a decision that lives in infamy in presidential politics. It is not just that the president used his constitutional powers to benefit his family. It is because the action culminates years of lying to the public about his knowledge and intentions in the influence-peddling scandal surrounding his family. Even among past controversies about the use of this pardon power, Biden has cemented his legacy for many, not as the commander in chief, but as the liar in chief. "

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 18:54 last edited by
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                              It’s the third pardon of a family member this century.

                              I wonder what he had to say about Jared’s dad.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 18:54 last edited by
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                                Move over, Jimmy. There's a new low in town.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 18:56 last edited by
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                                  The year the pardon goes back to, 2014, is when Hunter was hired by the Ukrainian company. So on the nose.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    kluurs
                                    wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 19:17 last edited by
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                                    Any guess as to why now - other than it is before sentencing? Would there have been a more advantageous date?

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 19:30 last edited by
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                                      Should have put it out Wednesday to give families something else to argue about at Thanksgiving.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 19:31 last edited by
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                                        He only had a four week window between Election Day and sentencing.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 2 Dec 2024, 19:35 last edited by
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                                          He was waiting in case Hunter committed more crimes.

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