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The Hegseth "incident."

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    #171

    Same with left handers, gingers, and guys named Todd.

    Is that an argument for excluding them from combat roles?

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Same with left handers, gingers, and guys named Todd.

      Is that an argument for excluding them from combat roles?

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      Jolly
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      #172

      @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

      Same with left handers, gingers, and guys named Todd.

      Is that an argument for excluding them from combat roles?

      Hegseth argued "standards".

      Here's an article from Military.com:

      https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/01/14/hegseth-grilled-about-women-combat-officer-purge-confirmation-hearing.html

      What he said is pretty much in line with his previous position... Lowering standards results in a less deadly and efficient military. If you follow this stuff much at all, you know what he's talking about...Infantry, Special Ops, maybe some Engineering battalions, Calvary (women can't crank tracks)etc. It doesn't preclude them from combat roles such as fighter or helicopter pilots, drone operators, or near combat roles such as medical or quartermaster units.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Having noted his views on standards, I think that women deployed in theater in noncombat roles, along with those in combat roles, should A) be fully counseled about rape if captured, and B) should be placed on birth control implants.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
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          #174

          Standards also isn’t a reason to have no women in combat. It’s a reason to have far fewer.

          At any rate ‘group x shouldn’t be in combat because memebers of group x could get injured’ works for all x, not just a subset.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Standards also isn’t a reason to have no women in combat. It’s a reason to have far fewer.

            At any rate ‘group x shouldn’t be in combat because memebers of group x could get injured’ works for all x, not just a subset.

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            George K
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            @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

            Standards also isn’t a reason to have no women in combat. It’s a reason to have far fewer.

            Good point. Israel, famously, has women in combat roles.

            Raises the obvious question, have standards been lowered to allow more women in combat roles?

            The other question is unspoken. When you put a bunch of 20-year-olds in a tight situation, there's assuredly hanky-panky going on. What does that do to combat morale when the hottie slept with Eddie, and not Kyle? And, to @jolly's point, implantable contraception is a non-starter.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Jolly
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              #176

              Gulf War - Love Boat. USS Acadia - 36 pregnancies during deployment.

              alt text

              Acadia was a destroyer tender.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                Standards also isn’t a reason to have no women in combat. It’s a reason to have far fewer.

                Good point. Israel, famously, has women in combat roles.

                Raises the obvious question, have standards been lowered to allow more women in combat roles?

                The other question is unspoken. When you put a bunch of 20-year-olds in a tight situation, there's assuredly hanky-panky going on. What does that do to combat morale when the hottie slept with Eddie, and not Kyle? And, to @jolly's point, implantable contraception is a non-starter.

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                @George-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                Good point. Israel, famously, has women in combat roles.

                Go check and see how often they deploy them. Very seldom in truly hostile situations and almost never outside of the Israeli border. Even then, there are some stipulations...For instance (correct me if I'm wrong) females only serve in all female tank crews, not in mixed crews.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  NobodySock
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                  #178

                  I think they should only let bona fide lesbians in combat with the guys. Problem solved.

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                  • N NobodySock

                    I didn't like him until I saw his white supremecy tats on his chest. That makes him good people.

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                    George K
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                    @NobodySock said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                    I didn't like him until I saw his white supremecy tats on his chest. That makes him good people.

                    You mean the cross that was on the floor of the national cathedral? The floor on which Jimmy Carter's coffin was positioned? That one?

                    https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/35939/pete-s-nazi-tattoo?_=1737338149341

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2025/01/20/senate-committee-votes-hegseth-defense-secretary/77802958007/

                      The Senate Armed Services Committee has voted in favor of Pete Hegseth, President Donald Trump'spick to lead the Pentagon.

                      Hegseth, 44, is a combat veteran and former Fox News host. The committee voted along party lines, 14-13, to advance his nomination to the full Senate for approval. A vote in the full Senate is expected later in the week.

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                        #181

                        Has the media learned nothing?

                        https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/22/medias-regurgitation-of-baseless-hegseth-allegations-prove-they-learned-nothing-post-election/

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          George K
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #183

                            Heard him called a ‘DUI hire’ today.

                            That’s funny. I don’t care who you are.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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