The Hegseth "incident."
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Give him a vote.
I dont think that President Trump would want that.
WIthdraw is better than a "no" vote for him.
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Washington Post yesterday:
Such awards were issued somewhat liberally throughout the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, experts say. Awardees of the meritorious service medal are predominantly military officers like Hegseth, data provided by the military shows. While many officers have risked their lives on the battlefield, the majority of fighting and exposure to danger is performed by the enlisted troops they command.
Ah...wait, he DID serve in combat the explain.
Hegseth also received a Combat Infantryman Badge, which is awarded when infantry soldiers and officers engage an enemy in combat.
For the Washington Post in 2018 a Bronze Star was something to be mentioned, a lot. And they don't comment that it was issued "liberally."
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Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!
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Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!
If Hegseth gets confirmed, and I have my doubts, at least he won't go AWOL for 7-10 days without telling POTUS.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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From Sen. Blumenthal
“The power of the presidency, not to mention this president-elect, and what the retribution might be, I think, is pretty daunting, and so I think Republicans are reluctant to step forward and be the first one, but I think privately, they’re much readier to advise the president that the better part of wisdom would be to urge withdrawal of this nomination.”
“I’d be surprised if we’re still talking about Hegseth at the end of the week or by Monday,” Blumenthal added.
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From Sen. Blumenthal
“The power of the presidency, not to mention this president-elect, and what the retribution might be, I think, is pretty daunting, and so I think Republicans are reluctant to step forward and be the first one, but I think privately, they’re much readier to advise the president that the better part of wisdom would be to urge withdrawal of this nomination.”
“I’d be surprised if we’re still talking about Hegseth at the end of the week or by Monday,” Blumenthal added.
@taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Sen. Blumenthal
The guy who pretended to be a VietNam vet....
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!
If Hegseth gets confirmed, and I have my doubts, at least he won't go AWOL for 7-10 days without telling POTUS.
@George-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!
If Hegseth gets confirmed, and I have my doubts, at least he won't go AWOL for 7-10 days without telling POTUS.
Let's hope he doesn't get taken prisoner. Trump hates that.
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Time for introspection...
The military industrial arms business is a trillion dollar business. The Defense Department is ripe with inefficiencies and crony politics. Money flows through the system in a torrent and nobody even tries to account for the individual drops. Corporations and individuals are getting filthy rich.
So ask yourself...Why the concerted push to kill the nomination?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Because he’s obviously unqualified and a bit of a tool.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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Time for introspection...
The military industrial arms business is a trillion dollar business. The Defense Department is ripe with inefficiencies and crony politics. Money flows through the system in a torrent and nobody even tries to account for the individual drops. Corporations and individuals are getting filthy rich.
So ask yourself...Why the concerted push to kill the nomination?
@Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Time for introspection...
So ask yourself...Why the concerted push to kill the nomination?
It seems that's just the way these things go for Republicans. Kavanaugh was kicked pretty hard because of a high school party that he might or not have attended, Barrett was attacked for going to church on Sunday.
Yet the Democrats have guys like this in positions of power.
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Listened to a guy today, filling in for Hannity. He said he'd done the weekend Fox & Friends show multiple times and had never detected any alcohol on Pete. He reached out this week to the other two hosts on the show, and both denied being contacted by anybody about Pete, and both stated they had never smelled alcohol on Pete.
Furthermore, they talked about show prep and performance. Hegseth seems to always be prepared and has never had any type of on-air problem.
Unnamed sources, indeed.
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@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Because he’s obviously unqualified....
This. As I said when he was first nominated, who can objectively look at his resume and say with a straight face that his background makes him qualified to run a multi billion dollar "company" with hundreds of thousands of employees.
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@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Because he’s obviously unqualified....
This. As I said when he was first nominated, who can objectively look at his resume and say with a straight face that his background makes him qualified to run a multi billion dollar "company" with hundreds of thousands of employees.
@taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Because he’s obviously unqualified....
This. As I said when he was first nominated, who can objectively look at his resume and say with a straight face that his background makes him qualified to run a multi billion dollar "company" with hundreds of thousands of employees.
Do you really think secretaries of <whatever large governmental organization> in past administrations are mostly people qualified to be CEOs of large private companies? I mean, I haven't checked, but I would assume they don't often have those resumes either. Would a day in the life of a cabinet member be similar to a day in the life of a CEO? I don't know. I do know that the current secretary took 8 days off without telling anybody, and he almost got away with nobody even noticing.
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@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Because he’s obviously unqualified....
This. As I said when he was first nominated, who can objectively look at his resume and say with a straight face that his background makes him qualified to run a multi billion dollar "company" with hundreds of thousands of employees.
@taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Because he’s obviously unqualified....
This. As I said when he was first nominated, who can objectively look at his resume and say with a straight face that his background makes him qualified to run a multi billion dollar "company" with hundreds of thousands of employees.
Lloyd Austin was "qualified" and look what you have...
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As Sec Def, Hegseth would have fewer people reporting to him on a daily basis than he did as a Major.
I think what your concern is, @taiwan_girl , is that Hegseth’s experience as a Major was more tactical while the role of Sec Def is more strategic in nature. I would counter that his training and education in public policy prepares him for the strategic role and his background in tactical command gives him a unique perspective and an advantage over Sec Defs that only ever sat in leadership, never in tactical or even operational roles.
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No Hegseth has the chops in Public Policy. It’s his Pubic Policy that’s the problem.
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This, and other administrations, have shown us that managerial experience in the field in which you worked has no bearing on ability in the field to which you are nominated.
See: Becerra
See: Buttigieg -
This, and other administrations, have shown us that managerial experience in the field in which you worked has no bearing on ability in the field to which you are nominated.
See: Becerra
See: Buttigieg@George-K I would have said (and maybe I did) the same thing about those two.
@Horace said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Do you really think secretaries of <whatever large governmental organization> in past administrations are mostly people qualified to be CEOs of large private companies?
That is not my point. It is not a matter of "were they qualified", but more "should they be qualified". Yes running a government department is not the same as being a CEO of a large company. I would say that it is even harder because of the more interference from outside sources. There is, however, quite a bit of overlap in the necessary skills.
@Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Lloyd Austin was "qualified" and look what you have...
Just like every CEO does not succeed. But, the odds are greater the more qualified you are. To use a US football analogy. If you were hiring a new college football coach, would you be more likely to look at other former college coaches or would you hire a youth football coach from the local high school?
@LuFins-Dad I get what you are saying, but I am not sure that direct report is a good indicator. You probably have more direct reports than the Sec. of Defense. I just dont think he has the strategic and maybe as important, the knowledge of managing organizational things.
Anyways, it will be interesting. You guys have made good points, but not enough to make me vote in favor of his confirmation. 555
