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  • taiwan_girlT Online
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    taiwan_girl
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    From the article, it does not sound like the job description of the Secretary of Defense. Maybe a VP or director of operation strategy or something like that.

    Just because a guy was a SEAL, served overseas, commanded a company(?) of 100 people, went on TV and has some opinions on what is wrong with the military does not necessarily make him qualified.

    If he gets approved, I hope he does succeed. And if he doesn't succeed, I sure it will be said that it is someone else's fault. 555

    (I know, I know, George pointed out that lack of qualifications of other previous cabinet people. That does not make this one okay.)

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      It’s a weird pick. It’s the largest organization in the world and his management experience is at the platoon level.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        A major is considered a senior officer in the U.S. Army. They can be battalion XO or S3. They can also be staff officers or action officers at HQ.

        Majors lead companies, which consist if 100-250 troops, depending if they are augmented or not. A company can consist of 2-7 platoons, depending on platoon size (20-50).

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          I don't think Pete is going to be too focused on many of the mundane organizational tasks. I think he's going there to tear DEI out by the roots, to sit some political generals and admirals out on the street and to refocus the military on their core mission, and try to meet recruiting goals.

          I do not see him as a long-term SecDef. I see him doing what he was appointed for, then moving on.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            A major is considered a senior officer in the U.S. Army. They can be battalion XO or S3. They can also be staff officers or action officers at HQ.

            Majors lead companies, which consist if 100-250 troops, depending if they are augmented or not. A company can consist of 2-7 platoons, depending on platoon size (20-50).

            taiwan_girlT Online
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            @Jolly said in Put a head on a pike and stick it in the parking lot.:

            A major is considered a senior officer in the U.S. Army. They can be battalion XO or S3. They can also be staff officers or action officers at HQ.

            Majors lead companies, which consist if 100-250 troops, depending if they are augmented or not. A company can consist of 2-7 platoons, depending on platoon size (20-50).

            But he wasn't a staff officer. And a big difference between leading 100 troops that are (mostly) homogeneous with very little budget control vs. an organization of 300000 people with a USD$XX billion dollar budget.

            In any normal organization, do you think that someone like this would even be considered? Ford Car Company would not pick someone to be CEO from someone who operated a car dealer.

            At least the Senator hearings will be/should be interesting.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @Jolly said in Put a head on a pike and stick it in the parking lot.:

              A major is considered a senior officer in the U.S. Army. They can be battalion XO or S3. They can also be staff officers or action officers at HQ.

              Majors lead companies, which consist if 100-250 troops, depending if they are augmented or not. A company can consist of 2-7 platoons, depending on platoon size (20-50).

              But he wasn't a staff officer. And a big difference between leading 100 troops that are (mostly) homogeneous with very little budget control vs. an organization of 300000 people with a USD$XX billion dollar budget.

              In any normal organization, do you think that someone like this would even be considered? Ford Car Company would not pick someone to be CEO from someone who operated a car dealer.

              At least the Senator hearings will be/should be interesting.

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              @taiwan_girl said in Put a head on a pike and stick it in the parking lot.:

              Ford Car Company would not pick someone to be CEO from someone who operated a car dealer.

              Mayor Pete would have approved of this post.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                50k vs ~3MM employees.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @Jolly said in Put a head on a pike and stick it in the parking lot.:

                  A major is considered a senior officer in the U.S. Army. They can be battalion XO or S3. They can also be staff officers or action officers at HQ.

                  Majors lead companies, which consist if 100-250 troops, depending if they are augmented or not. A company can consist of 2-7 platoons, depending on platoon size (20-50).

                  But he wasn't a staff officer. And a big difference between leading 100 troops that are (mostly) homogeneous with very little budget control vs. an organization of 300000 people with a USD$XX billion dollar budget.

                  In any normal organization, do you think that someone like this would even be considered? Ford Car Company would not pick someone to be CEO from someone who operated a car dealer.

                  At least the Senator hearings will be/should be interesting.

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                  @taiwan_girl said in Put a head on a pike and stick it in the parking lot.:

                  @Jolly said in Put a head on a pike and stick it in the parking lot.:

                  A major is considered a senior officer in the U.S. Army. They can be battalion XO or S3. They can also be staff officers or action officers at HQ.

                  Majors lead companies, which consist if 100-250 troops, depending if they are augmented or not. A company can consist of 2-7 platoons, depending on platoon size (20-50).

                  But he wasn't a staff officer. And a big difference between leading 100 troops that are (mostly) homogeneous with very little budget control vs. an organization of 300000 people with a USD$XX billion dollar budget.

                  In any normal organization, do you think that someone like this would even be considered? Ford Car Company would not pick someone to be CEO from someone who operated a car dealer.

                  At least the Senator hearings will be/should be interesting.

                  If you're arguing for Robert McNamara, I suggest you go back and look at how that turned out.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @taiwan_girl said in Put a head on a pike and stick it in the parking lot.:

                    @Jolly said in Put a head on a pike and stick it in the parking lot.:

                    A major is considered a senior officer in the U.S. Army. They can be battalion XO or S3. They can also be staff officers or action officers at HQ.

                    Majors lead companies, which consist if 100-250 troops, depending if they are augmented or not. A company can consist of 2-7 platoons, depending on platoon size (20-50).

                    But he wasn't a staff officer. And a big difference between leading 100 troops that are (mostly) homogeneous with very little budget control vs. an organization of 300000 people with a USD$XX billion dollar budget.

                    In any normal organization, do you think that someone like this would even be considered? Ford Car Company would not pick someone to be CEO from someone who operated a car dealer.

                    At least the Senator hearings will be/should be interesting.

                    If you're arguing for Robert McNamara, I suggest you go back and look at how that turned out.

                    taiwan_girlT Online
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                    @Jolly I am not saying that hiring someone with past experience is a guarantee of success.

                    But the odds are much greater if you do.

                    Again, using a corporate example. You are very smart guy, but to put you in charge of a multi-hospital health group with no background in that area is setting you up for failure.

                    And I think it is more harder in government departments where the ability to get things is even more difficult. There are a lot more "politics" involved and networking is probably even more important than in private companies.

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                      Jolly
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                      Never forget, The Ark was built by amateurs.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        But all the king’s horses and all the king’s men still couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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