Unlisted. 750,000 views in 60 minutes

[George K]

I listened to about the first 45 minutes.

So far, not too much substance, and a lot of self-aggrandizement coming through. However, he seemed approachable, friendly, and not too "Trumpy." I stopped listening when he talked about CBS (my chili needed tending to). More tomorrow.

[xenon]

I loved how Trump was telling stories about basic Lincoln family history in the beginning, but acting like he was dropping some insider American lore. Even Joe had to say after a few mins “everyone knows this stuff, I want to know what you felt in the WH…”

But to your point, George - I think Rogan made a smart move doing a very pro-Trump opener (“the system / media is out to get you”). Trump is his Trumpiest when he’s lashing out at something / someone - but that doesn’t work as well when you’re in friendly territory.

I didn’t find anything interesting or novel in there. Even with 3 hours of content - I didn’t learn anything about Trump or his positions that I didn’t already know.

[Jolly]

I learned he knew more about boxing than I thought.

And Rogan dropped one that the Saudis are about to drop some big money into the world of boxing and top tier fights. The same guy heading up the UFC is involved in trying to get it off the ground.

[Jolly]

20 hours/20M

Yang tells Kamala, "Go".

https://nypost.com/2024/10/26/us-news/trumps-rogan-episode-hits-20m-views-in-20-hours-on-youtube/

[George K]

Those "view counts."

I have to wonder how many of them listened to the whole thing. I've only done about 35 minutes, but I'm sure I'm in that statistic of 20 million.

Yang's right, however. If you have 8% of the population listening in, even if for a few minutes, that's a market you MUST tap.

But...then there's the prickly question of reviewed subjects.

[Horace]

Nobody is confident that more Kamala is a good thing for Kamala.

[kluurs]

@Jolly said in Unlisted. 750,000 views in 60 minutes:

I learned he knew more about boxing than I thought.

Yeah, I thought that while some might review that as irrelevant, I thought Trump's depth of knowledge and fervor for MMA supported the notion that Trump represents the common man - i.e. not part of the elite.

[Aqua Letifer]

@George-K said in Unlisted. 750,000 views in 60 minutes:

Those "view counts."

I have to wonder how many of them listened to the whole thing. I've only done about 35 minutes, but I'm sure I'm in that statistic of 20 million.

Yang's right, however. If you have 8% of the population listening in, even if for a few minutes, that's a market you MUST tap.

But...then there's the prickly question of reviewed subjects.

It's YouTube. But the real platform is Spotify. As a podcast, the international standard is number of "downloads," which is defined as one minute or more of streaming.

Stream time's the real metric anyway, but it's of course not public.

[George K]

Yeah. You watch one minute, and it counts.

I watched about 45 minutes (and fell asleep). How does that count.

OTOH, does this correlate to "traditional" platforms? If 20 millions watch 60 minutes on youtube for 5 minutes, does it count as 20 million views?

[Aqua Letifer]

@George-K said in Unlisted. 750,000 views in 60 minutes:

Yeah. You watch one minute, and it counts.

I watched about 45 minutes (and fell asleep). How does that count.

It counts as:

• 1 download
• 45 minutes added to the show's total view time
• 45 minutes of view time within the buckets of the first 7 (and 30) days
• ???? more or fewer minutes as of X minutes past publish, compared to the channel average
• the top ???? performing episode for the channel, ranked by unique downloads

There isn't one single metric.

[Jolly]

Watched a short clip of Rogan discussing the interview with some other guys and how he would talk with Harris, if she comes on.

I'm having trouble finding that clip this morning. Anybody seen it?

[George K]

@Jolly said in Unlisted. 750,000 views in 60 minutes:

I'm having trouble finding that clip this morning. Anybody seen it?

This?

Link to video

[George K]

"Kamala really decided that getting booed by Beyoncé fans was a better move than doing Rogan."

[Jolly]

@George-K said in Unlisted. 750,000 views in 60 minutes:

@Jolly said in Unlisted. 750,000 views in 60 minutes:

I'm having trouble finding that clip this morning. Anybody seen it?

This?

Link to video

Damn, you're good ...

[Jolly]

It's slowed down.

Right at 34M. Wonder what the Spotify numbers look like?

[Horace]

Clear headed calculations of Kamala going on Rogan will admit that there's a good chance she comes out of it looking worse than before.

[xenon]

Broader thought - Trump is right to be on the podcast circuit. Traditional TV media aren't platforming him like they were in 2016 / 2020. They're losing their audience anyway.

Podcasts have a huge audience now - bigger than TV, and podcasts are a media where narrative skill and story telling matters. If you're a boring person, it'll come through.

While I didn't find his podcast with Joe interesting from a learning/policy perspective - Trump knows how to keep a conversation going, so he's a successful podcast guest in that sense.

[Jolly]

@xenon said in Unlisted. 750,000 views in 60 minutes:

Broader thought - Trump is right to be on the podcast circuit. Traditional TV media aren't platforming him like they were in 2016 / 2020. They're losing their audience anyway.

Podcasts have a huge audience now - bigger than TV, and podcasts are a media where narrative skill and story telling matters. If you're a boring person, it'll come through.

While I didn't find his podcast with Joe interesting from a learning/policy perspective - Trump knows how to keep a conversation going, so he's a successful podcast guest in that sense.

Heard who he credited during the podcast for pushing him to do that type of media?

[xenon]

The "very smart and tall" Barron Trump.

[Jolly]

Correct.

Barron started in the campaign coordinating their Tik-Tok stuff. He's now involved in most of the new media discussions.