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Ted Cruz, SCOTUS

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    It would be Trump's only term. The GOP would have both House and Senate (not that the House matters).

    Does it matter about the optics?

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    @Jolly said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

    Does it matter about the optics?

    If politicians had backbones, it would.

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      @Jolly said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

      Does it matter about the optics?

      If politicians had backbones, it would.

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      Jolly
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      @taiwan_girl said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

      @Jolly said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

      Does it matter about the optics?

      If politicians had backbones, it would.

      If politicians had backbones, it wouldn't.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        It would be Trump's only term. The GOP would have both House and Senate (not that the House matters).

        Does it matter about the optics?

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        @Jolly said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

        It would be Trump's only term. The GOP would have both House and Senate (not that the House matters).

        Does it matter about the optics?

        Oh, it’s not about the optics, and it’s certainly possible, but it would be the dumbest damn move in the history of the Republican Party.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Jolly said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

          It would be Trump's only term. The GOP would have both House and Senate (not that the House matters).

          Does it matter about the optics?

          Oh, it’s not about the optics, and it’s certainly possible, but it would be the dumbest damn move in the history of the Republican Party.

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          Jolly
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          @LuFins-Dad said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

          @Jolly said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

          It would be Trump's only term. The GOP would have both House and Senate (not that the House matters).

          Does it matter about the optics?

          Oh, it’s not about the optics, and it’s certainly possible, but it would be the dumbest damn move in the history of the Republican Party.

          You would be replacing like with like. So besides the optics, what makes it so dumb?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            You aren’t replacing like with like. Thomas doesn’t have a political podcast that is entirely based on demonizing the left. Cruz is closer to Limbaugh than he is to Scalia, these days.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Cruz is waaaayyy too partisan of a politician to be considered for a SCOTUS appointment. 12 years ago, okay. Not anymore.

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              @LuFins-Dad said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

              Cruz is waaaayyy too partisan of a politician to be considered for a SCOTUS appointment. 12 years ago, okay. Not anymore.

              Agreed, perhaps even worse he's an attention whore. We need quiet institutionalists on the court, not fame-seeking RBG wannabes.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                A GOP president could probably find similar politics in a less overtly political judge. The downsides of appointing an overtly tribal pundit are obvious, not least because the other side would then be able to do so without suffering any social backlash.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  I like Cruz, he's a really bright guy--but WAY too much political baggage. They need a nice conservative judge that nobody ever heard of with impeccable credentials, something like Barrett and Kavanaugh. They both were great candidates and the Democrats STILL tore them apart before they got in. It's going to be a rough ride for anyone who wants to be a Justice.

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                    Also we need SCOTUS judges whose final ambition is serving on the court (or maybe leading it). Not someone who wants to use it as a springboard to the presidency. Guaranteed mischief will come from that.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Also we need SCOTUS judges whose final ambition is serving on the court (or maybe leading it). Not someone who wants to use it as a springboard to the presidency. Guaranteed mischief will come from that.

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                      George K
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                      @jon-nyc said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

                      Not someone who wants to use it as a springboard to the presidency.

                      Cruz wants to do that?

                      I'd not heard that.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        He mentioned it once or twice in 2015.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Never heard that one.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            He actually ran for president. Don’t you remember how he committed election fraud in the Iowa caucus? Me neither but Trump does.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Let me help. From 2016:

                              https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/trump-cruz-stole-iowa-tweet-deleted-218674

                              Elbows up!

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @Jolly said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

                                Does it matter about the optics?

                                If politicians had backbones, it would.

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                                @taiwan_girl said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

                                @Jolly said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

                                Does it matter about the optics?

                                If politicians had backbones, it would.

                                That's completely backwards.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  I like Cruz in many ways. But I'd prefer someone with judicial experience.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    I like Cruz in many ways. But I'd prefer someone with judicial experience.

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                                    @Mik said in Ted Cruz, SCOTUS:

                                    I like Cruz in many ways. But I'd prefer someone with judicial experience.

                                    He was solicitor general for Texas (that's not judicial experience, per se).

                                    He clerked for Luttig (4th Circuit Appellate judge) and later Rehnquist.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      @Mik @Jolly I am going to play the "I dont speak English very well" card.

                                      (In addition, I also eat pets!!!)

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                                        Well, since he was reelected, I guess that he is out of consideration for Supreme Court Judge.

                                        But, there may be a couple of awkward dinner conversations around the Cruz table.

                                        “It also looks very likely that we’re going to have a Republican Senate next year. I believe, and I hope and pray, that Donald Trump will be elected president of the United States,” Cruz said on Tuesday to raucous cheers.

                                        Meanwhile Caroline scoffed at her father’s statement and, as her eyes scanned the crowd, she spotted her mother, Heidi Cruz, joining in on the applause.

                                        “Don’t clap for that,” the teen can be seen muttering as she scowled at her mom, before repeating: “Don’t clap… seriously.”

                                        Cruz, seemingly oblivious of his daughter’s disapproval, continued: “I want to say thank you to our two amazing and beautiful girls Caroline and Katherine. You know, politics at times exacts a price on the family. And I want to say I am so grateful for their love and support.”

                                        Link to video

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                                          No doubt she knows he threw her and her sister under the bus in 2021.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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