The problematic carrier

[Mik]

It is difficult to believe their nuclear arsenal has been maintained any better.

[George K]

I find it interesting that Russia (and China) have such small carrier fleets - if you can count one ship as a "fleet."

Granted, they can be vulnerable, but there's no better way to project power.

[Copper]

@George-K said in The problematic carrier:

I find it interesting that Russia (and China) have such small carrier fleets

They can only steal our technology so fast.

Although I'm pretty sure the Bidens have speeded up the process.

[Renauda]

Originally the Moskva was to be a carrier, was then redesigned and built as a missile cruiser. When deployed into combat The Ukrainians reconfigured it once more. It ended its service as a submarine.

[George K]

@Renauda said in The problematic carrier:

Originally the Moskva was to be a carrier, was redesigned and built as missile cruiser. When deployed into combat The Ukrainians reconfigured it once more. It ended its service as a submarine.

I wondered where you were going with that.

[Mik]

I didn’t.

I guess I’m just a little quicker.

[George K]

@Mik said in The problematic carrier:

I didn’t.

I guess I’m just a little quicker.

Competitive mofo, aren’t you.

[Renauda]

@George-K

Seriously though first Russia then the USSR always aspired to having a real blue water navy. In the case of Russia its dream was sunk by the Japanese Imperial Navy in May 1905 at the battle of Tsushima Strait . Imperial Russia never recovered its loss. Up to 1945 the Soviets could only manage to build a coastal defence Navy for the Baltic and Black seas, the immediate western Arctic and Far East Pacific regions. In the Cold War their naval doctrine focused on more on a forward projecting submarine fleet than surface navy. It remained such until the 1970’s when consideration was given to making a blue water navy. It never really materialized and the surface fleet has remained to this day essentially a coastal defence force with very limited power projection capability.

[George K]

(unrelated)

I remain in awe of your knowledge of this history.

[Jolly]

Fleet carrier operation is systems dependent. Not one, but many smaller systems working together towards a single goal. It doesn't just happen overnight, which is why the Chinese are experiencing a steep learning curve.