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  • MikM Mik

    I suspect the Russians did not give him the launch button but the codes, like us. If Putin is starting the war, does the military comply, knowing the consequences? It’s not certain just as it would be with us.

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    NobodySock
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    #32

    Where are our Jason Bournes of the world today. Such information gathering is right down his alley. I only suggest him as he's not in a wheel chair quite yet like Bond. Queue my favorite sock of all time.......

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      Bach, I think of you very often as I don't really know any other Israeli residents. You and your brethren have my utmost respect.

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      @NobodySock

      all good

      just taking it one day at at time

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        Only non-witches get due process.

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          ???

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            I thought Saudi and Iran were kind of enemies?

            Maybe there will be some "accidental" sinking of Iran ships.

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              Hence my ???

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Any sense of what they’re hitting?

                    Bear in mind I have supported destroying their nuclear weapons facilities for years.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Any sense of what they’re hitting?

                      Bear in mind I have supported destroying their nuclear weapons facilities for years.

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                      @Mik said in The Iran thread:

                      Bear in mind I have supported destroying their nuclear weapons facilities for years.

                      Such a conservative SOB.

                      Take out the whole theocratic government.

                      Search "Iran before the revolution" to see what this government has done to its population. I worked with several Iranians - all of whom are sorrowful over what the country became in the last 40 year.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        I had Iranian friends in 1980 San Diego during the hostage crisis. A bit backward with women. but warm, good people. They hated Khomeni.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          I slept through all the fun. We will see what the new day brings.

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                              Interesting. They hit air defense systems in Iraq and Syria as well.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Because they flew east by going up north over Syria into Iraq. To avoid going into Jordanian airspace. So the initial air defenses taken out were there. Then the next step was Iranian air defense. Then with air space secure, they went for other targets.

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                                  I wonder if they informed Iraq beforehand. I doubt they did Syria, but if those in Iraq were essentially Iranian air defense I could see it.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    That would have been from the US. Centcom was running the liaisons with various armed forces.

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                                      Haven’t seen much reporting on what was hit and why.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        ill give u a short version of what im hearing here.

                                        first of all, the idea was to create a scenario where they would not feel compelled to respond. its not in our (current) intrest to fight a war on three fronts. so the crown jewels, the nuclear sites and the oil was off limits. im thinking the same about regime symbols, like revolutionary guard HQ or khamenis house, these would make the regime look weak, and foment unrest and require them to respond.

                                        so targets were away from the limelight, enough to cause damage and send a message, not enough to push too hard.

                                        strikes were done at night to minimize loss of life and concentrate just on the hardware.

                                        as for what was struck, obviously air defense would be the first target to allow freedom of airspace, but its more than that. im hearing all the S300 and S400 air defense sites in Iran were destroyed. the issue is, they are all russian manufactured, and to expect now for putin to quickly replace all that hardware when he has his own war to fight is a bit of a problem for vlad.

                                        the other target was ballistic missile capability. because thats the threat iran holds over us. im hearing vague descriptions of a "critical" component of missile capability being targeted, ive heard some saudi report that it involves some sort of fuel mixer (i dont really know what this means) that costs millions to replace, and may put back missile production by a year or two.

                                        as it is, Iran is playing everything down, meaning we may have succeeded in getting just the right amount of damage without them losing too much face, (none of this will be allowed to be reported in Iran) and keep the populace in the dark, since most targets were well away from civilian areas, (although tehranis definitly heard the booms not too far away.

                                        it will be a while before the full story leaks out, as im sure it will.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_missile_system

                                        Iran received four S-300PMU2 batteries from Russia in 2016, each consisting of a 96L6E target-acquisition radar, a 30N6E2 target-engagement radar, and four 5P85TE2 towed transporter-erector-launchers (TELs).[133]

                                        reported here that all four knocked out

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                                          Good

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