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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #55

    I would like to ask Walz...If your medical system is so good, why are people suiciding with guns at such a high rate in Minnesota's rural areas?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #56

      My favorite part was when CBS cut the mic after Vance started to fact-check the self-appointed "fact-checkers" who said they'd do no fact-checking.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #57

        BTW, Vance was right.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #58

          The question is whether it actually matters?

          The Brad

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by Horace
            #59

            Given his attitude that socialism is just being neighborly, Walz can be relied on to love big government solutions at every turn. Vance clearly has principles against big government, even if he abandons them on a case by case basis. As does everybody who's not an anarchist.

            I heard a story about Walz's wife during the BLM riots in her city. She opened the windows to take in the smell of burning cars, to revel in it.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tim-walz-s-wife-gwen-said-she-kept-windows-open-during-george-floyd-riots-to-smell-burning-tires/ar-AA1opdMB

            Read between the lines and you can tell the BLM riots excited her. White woman smelling exciting justice riots from open window of governor's mansion. There's a parable there somewhere.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #60

              I think the GOP should no longer do a debate sponsored by any major network.

              From now on, let each candidate pick a questioner for the other candidate, and hold one debate

              Secondly, hold two town halls, one in a deeply blue state, one in a deeply red state, pulling registered voters at random - one third each, GOP, Dem and Independent.

              Have a man standing behind the moderator with a cattle prod. If the moderator breaks the rules, zap him!

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #61

                One surprising thing was when they did hold Walz’s feet to the fire over the claim that he was in Hong Kong during Tiananmen Square.

                The Brad

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                • MikM Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #62

                  I was encouraged by how much common ground was identified last night. What sticks with me this morning is the GAO estimates on the respective economic plans.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    I was encouraged by how much common ground was identified last night. What sticks with me this morning is the GAO estimates on the respective economic plans.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #63

                    @Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

                    I was encouraged by how much common ground was identified last night. What sticks with me this morning is the GAO estimates on the respective economic plans.

                    Wait, what? I didn’t even catch that. There were several collegiate estimates and the Goldman Sachs thing that was walked back. Can you send me something on the GAO estimates.

                    The Brad

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #64

                      I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                      Hugh Hewitt:

                      Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #65

                        His facial expressions throughout the night made him look perpetually hapless, like Don Rickles’s wimpy Lutheran brother, here to nod eagerly at you instead of hurl insults.

                        https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/vance-dominates-walz-in-a-shockingly-substantive-and-polite-debate/

                        The Brad

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                        • George KG George K

                          I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                          Hugh Hewitt:

                          Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                          HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #66

                          @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                          I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                          Hugh Hewitt:

                          Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                          Yep, concentrate on the issue everybody knows is a loser for the GOP.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • RenaudaR Offline
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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #67

                            I watched the whole debate. Several of the issues were the same as to what is being debated in this country. Not surprisingly, Walz is still working his last job. Don’t think it helps him. Not sure about Vance, although he strikes me as a more educated and smoother version of our little P.P., Pierre Poilievre.

                            Can’t help but think though that Walz too often pulled faces that made himself look like Don Rickles. It was distracting.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #68

                              He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • kluursK Offline
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                                kluurs
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #69

                                I thought Vance's smile and respectful but challenging demeanor helped him a lot in overcoming some negatives that have been tossed at him.

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #70

                                  @Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

                                  He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

                                  GY2727ibgAAkgFC.png

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                  LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

                                    He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

                                    GY2727ibgAAkgFC.png

                                    LuFins DadL Offline
                                    LuFins DadL Offline
                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #71

                                    @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                                    @Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

                                    He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

                                    GY2727ibgAAkgFC.png

                                    LOL!

                                    The Brad

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                                      Hugh Hewitt:

                                      Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                                      JollyJ Offline
                                      JollyJ Offline
                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #72

                                      @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                                      I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                                      Hugh Hewitt:

                                      Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                                      Abortion > Possible nuclear war.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                                      LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                                        I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                                        Hugh Hewitt:

                                        Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                                        Abortion > Possible nuclear war.

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins DadL Offline
                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #73

                                        @Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:

                                        @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                                        I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                                        Hugh Hewitt:

                                        Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                                        Abortion > Possible nuclear war.

                                        IVF for everyone after the radiation!

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #74

                                          The Brad

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