Walz Vance debate

[Jolly]

Debates are pictures and sound bites.

God Bless him, Walz provided a heckuva sound bite.

[LuFins Dad]

My take? Vance handled the abortion question brilliantly. That needs to become the pro-life platform for the time being.

Walz came across better on gun control, excepting his weird thing about befriending school shooters and the thing about his son witnessing a shooting. You know that’s going to be fact checked. It sounds like all of the other exaggerations Walz has made.

I liked how Vance turned the Jan 6 question around to a challenge about censorship and the 1st amendment.

Altogether, though? Both scared the shit out of me. Both are fully engaged in the idea of a large and expansive government that needs to have it’s fingerprints on everything, from the price of a load of bread, to people’s investments in their homes, to national daycare. They both seem to think government is the answer for everything.

[Jolly]

I would like to ask Walz...If your medical system is so good, why are people suiciding with guns at such a high rate in Minnesota's rural areas?

[George K]

My favorite part was when CBS cut the mic after Vance started to fact-check the self-appointed "fact-checkers" who said they'd do no fact-checking.

[Jolly]

BTW, Vance was right.

[LuFins Dad]

The question is whether it actually matters?

[Horace]

Given his attitude that socialism is just being neighborly, Walz can be relied on to love big government solutions at every turn. Vance clearly has principles against big government, even if he abandons them on a case by case basis. As does everybody who's not an anarchist.

I heard a story about Walz's wife during the BLM riots in her city. She opened the windows to take in the smell of burning cars, to revel in it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tim-walz-s-wife-gwen-said-she-kept-windows-open-during-george-floyd-riots-to-smell-burning-tires/ar-AA1opdMB

Read between the lines and you can tell the BLM riots excited her. White woman smelling exciting justice riots from open window of governor's mansion. There's a parable there somewhere.

[Jolly]

I think the GOP should no longer do a debate sponsored by any major network.

From now on, let each candidate pick a questioner for the other candidate, and hold one debate

Secondly, hold two town halls, one in a deeply blue state, one in a deeply red state, pulling registered voters at random - one third each, GOP, Dem and Independent.

Have a man standing behind the moderator with a cattle prod. If the moderator breaks the rules, zap him!

[LuFins Dad]

One surprising thing was when they did hold Walz’s feet to the fire over the claim that he was in Hong Kong during Tiananmen Square.

[Mik]

I was encouraged by how much common ground was identified last night. What sticks with me this morning is the GAO estimates on the respective economic plans.

[LuFins Dad]

@Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

I was encouraged by how much common ground was identified last night. What sticks with me this morning is the GAO estimates on the respective economic plans.

Wait, what? I didn’t even catch that. There were several collegiate estimates and the Goldman Sachs thing that was walked back. Can you send me something on the GAO estimates.

[George K]

I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

Hugh Hewitt:

Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

[LuFins Dad]

His facial expressions throughout the night made him look perpetually hapless, like Don Rickles’s wimpy Lutheran brother, here to nod eagerly at you instead of hurl insults.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/vance-dominates-walz-in-a-shockingly-substantive-and-polite-debate/

[Horace]

@George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

Hugh Hewitt:

Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

Yep, concentrate on the issue everybody knows is a loser for the GOP.

[Renauda]

I watched the whole debate. Several of the issues were the same as to what is being debated in this country. Not surprisingly, Walz is still working his last job. Don’t think it helps him. Not sure about Vance, although he strikes me as a more educated and smoother version of our little P.P., Pierre Poilievre.

Can’t help but think though that Walz too often pulled faces that made himself look like Don Rickles. It was distracting.

[Mik]

He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

[kluurs]

I thought Vance's smile and respectful but challenging demeanor helped him a lot in overcoming some negatives that have been tossed at him.

[George K]

@Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

@Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

LOL!

[Jolly]

@George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

Hugh Hewitt:

Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

Abortion > Possible nuclear war.