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  • A Axtremus
    3 Oct 2024, 04:11

    As more and more jobs are being taken over by robots/automation, there needs to be a way to keep the masses fed and working with some dignity, else you get revolutions.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 12:07 last edited by
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    @Axtremus said in Strike!:

    As more and more jobs are being taken over by robots/automation, there needs to be a way to keep the masses fed and working with some dignity, else you get revolutions.

    Thought you wanted unfettered immigration? By my cipherin' that makes the masses bigger...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      George K
      wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 15:50 last edited by
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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Daggett

      Saweet!

      Daggett was elected president of the International Longshoremen's Association in 2011; he was elected to a third term in 2019.[5] In 2023, Daggett earned $901,000 from the ILA, including $728,000 in base salary and $173,000 as president emeritus of ILA Local 1804–1.

      Daggett was reported in 2017 as owning a 76-foot yacht, the Obsession.[9] In 2021, the yacht was sold with an asking price of $3.795 million.[15]

      He was also reported to drive a Bentley, a luxury car.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 17:08 last edited by jon-nyc 10 Mar 2024, 17:09
        #12

        I keep seeing that he’s buddy buddy with Trump but I don’t know how true that is. BMI would be a point in favor as would be his love of protectionism.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • J jon-nyc
          3 Oct 2024, 17:08

          I keep seeing that he’s buddy buddy with Trump but I don’t know how true that is. BMI would be a point in favor as would be his love of protectionism.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 17:28 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in Strike!:

          I keep seeing that he’s buddy buddy with Trump but I don’t know how true that is. BMI would be a point in favor as would be his love of protectionism.

          Some buddy. The guy and his union endorsed Biden in 2020, and they have donated $100K to democrats this cycle, and $5K to republicans.

          The Brad

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 17:29 last edited by
            #14

            That speaks to the membership not to him personally. Certainly the timing benefits Trump.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • J jon-nyc
              3 Oct 2024, 17:29

              That speaks to the membership not to him personally. Certainly the timing benefits Trump.

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              Horace
              wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 17:31 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Strike!:

              That speaks to the membership not to him personally. Certainly the timing benefits Trump.

              It also benefits Russia.

              Education is extremely important.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 17:33 last edited by
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                Trump, Russia, China, Iran. All the major villains benefit.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • J jon-nyc
                  3 Oct 2024, 17:33

                  Trump, Russia, China, Iran. All the major villains benefit.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 17:35 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Strike!:

                  Trump, Russia, China, Iran. All the major villains benefit.

                  A very simple, appealing, Manichean world.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 17:39 last edited by
                    #18

                    It’s simply true that when a country experienced harm its enemies rejoice.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      3 Oct 2024, 17:29

                      That speaks to the membership not to him personally. Certainly the timing benefits Trump.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 18:13 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Strike!:

                      That speaks to the membership not to him personally.

                      Do you think the Longshoremen differ radically from the Teamsters?
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                      Or from United Steelworkers? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/united-steelworkers-conference-members-leaders-play-down-election-divide-2024-09-20/

                      The UMW has not made any endorsement of national candidates since 2008, when there membership and their leadership began to diverge…

                      My bet is the membership of the Longshoremen is probably prettY similar in outlook.

                      The Brad

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 19:33 last edited by
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                        DeSantis is sending in the troops. https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/desantis-authorizes-election-supervisors-to-make-accommodations-deploys-guard-to-ports-after-helene/3434493/

                        In most other states, the National Guard is comprised of Weekend Warriors. In Florida’s case, it’s a full time job.

                        The Brad

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 19:34 last edited by
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                          I do wonder what happens if one of the National Guard troops is a longshoreman.

                          The Brad

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 3 Oct 2024, 23:30 last edited by
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                            Breaking: Strike suspended, wage talks resume.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 4 Oct 2024, 00:30 last edited by
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                              Have they arrested the Union President, yet?

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 4 Oct 2024, 14:07 last edited by
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                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 4 Oct 2024, 14:21 last edited by
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 5 Oct 2024, 11:41 last edited by
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                                    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ship-queue-grows-us-ports-dockworker-strike-enters-third-day-2024-10-03/

                                    US port workers and operators reach deal to end East Coast strike immediately

                                    Tentative deal includes a 62% wage hike over six years ...

                                    That would raise average wages to about $63 an hour from $39 an hour over the life of the contract.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 5 Oct 2024, 11:48 last edited by
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                                      But there's more ...

                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/04/port-strike-deal-not-done-automation-big-hurdle-for-ila-union-usmx.html

                                      The U.S. ports strike suspension, with the International Longshoreman's Association union and USMX ownership group reaching a deal on wage increases, still leaves the contentious issue of port automation to resolve by a Jan. 15 deadline

                                      That's about a hundred days from now.

                                      In a statement Friday, the ILA said it wants to tighten the language related to the use of automation at ports. “Automation will continue to be an issue that will be worked out and is being worked out in this contract,” the ILA stated. “The ILA negotiated restrictions on automation and semi-automation in the last contract. The ILA just wants to tighten the language that no automation means no automation.”

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 5 Oct 2024, 11:52 last edited by
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                                        In other words, put off the real strike until after the election.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Mik
                                          5 Oct 2024, 11:52

                                          In other words, put off the real strike until after the election.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 30 Oct 2024, 01:57 last edited by
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                                          @Mik said in Strike!:

                                          In other words, put off the real strike until after the election.

                                          Just a reminder. He didn't fix anything - just kicked the can down the road for his successor. Hopefully, Harris will be able to deal with it.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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