Acceptance speech
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The speech is full of lies, exaggerations, and other falsehood, according to many fact-checkers. Samples below:
Fact-checking by NPR:
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/27/901381398/fact-check-trumps-address-to-the-republican-convention-annotatedFact-checking by Politifact:
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/aug/28/fact-checking-donald-trumps-2020-rnc-speech/Fact-checking by The Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/28/fact-checking-president-trumps-acceptance-speech-2020-rnc/Fact-checking by CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/politics/rnc-night-four-fact-check/index.htmlAs reported by Vox:
https://www.vox.com/2020-presidential-election/2020/8/28/21405325/trump-rnc-speech-fact-check-cnn-daniel-dale- “Trump said Joe Biden is ‘talking about taking down the border wall.’ Biden has specifically, explicitly rejected that idea. He just said he’ll stop further additional construction.”
- “Trump claimed, as always, that he is the one who passed the veterans’ choice law. Barack Obama signed that into law in 2014. Trump signed a 2018 law to modify it.”
- “Trump said, ‘I have done more for the African American community than any president since Abraham Lincoln.’ That is ludicrous. Lyndon Johnson, for one, signed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.”
- “Trump again touted a ‘record 9 million job gain over the past three months.’ He didn’t mention, as usual, that that gain follows a record 22 million job loss over the previous two months.”
- “He said he’ll ‘continue to lower drug prices.’ They’ve increased during his presidency.”
- “He said they opened a Jerusalem embassy for less than $500,000. Early documents show it was at least $21 million.”
- “He claimed NATO member spending has increased for the first time in about 20 years. Spending, in fact, rose in 2015 and in 2016, before he took office.”
- “He said he will always, and Republicans will always, strongly protect people with preexisting conditions. That pledge has already been broken. He and they have repeatedly tried to weaken those protections in Obamacare.”
- “He claimed again that he banned travel from China and Europe. No, he imposed partial restrictions with many exemptions. Tens of thousands of people continued traveling over.”
- “He boasted about the Covid testing system and about his general response. Look, experts nearly universally say the US was fatally slow in its response, especially slow in setting up adequate testing.”
- “He said he ended what he called ‘a NAFTA nightmare’ and he signed a brand new US-Mexico-Canada agreement — the USMCA. That agreement preserves, maintains most of NAFTA.”
- “He boasted about building about 300 miles of border wall. What he didn’t say is that most of that is replacement barrier. As of August 7, according to official data, just 5 miles had been built where none existed before.”
- “He suggested Joe Biden would confiscate guns. That’s baseless. Biden is running on a non-mandatory buyback of so-called assault weapons.”
- “He said Democrats want to defund the police. Biden, again, doesn’t, has rejected that.”
- “He said he has ‘very good information’ that China wants Biden to win because Biden is soft on China or cheerleads for China. The US intelligence community says China wants Biden to win because it sees Trump as unpredictable.”
- “He said Biden vowed to close down charter schools. Biden’s plan is skeptical on charters, but would not abolish them entirely.”
- “He denounced Biden for voting for the Iraq War. Biden did indeed vote for the Iraq War. But what Trump doesn’t mention is that he also supported that invasion.”
- “He said Democrats twice removed the word ‘God’ from the Pledge of Allegiance at their convention. Two individual caucus meetings outside the main primetime programming did leave it out, but it was uttered in every primetime event.”
- “Trump denounced so-called cancel culture as an insidious, left-wing thing. He, Donald J. Trump, has tried to get dozens of people and entities canceled, fired, boycotted, including literally, last week, Goodyear.”
- “He said he imposed an order to give 10 years in prison to rioters. That’s a maximum discretionary sentence up to judges, in existing laws. His order just asked the government to fully enforce.”
- “He said Biden’s plan would eliminate America’s borders. No. Just no. It’s wrong.”
@Axtremus said in Acceptance speech:
The speech is full of lies, exaggerations, and other falsehood, according to many fact-checkers. Samples below:
Fact-checking by NPR:
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/27/901381398/fact-check-trumps-address-to-the-republican-convention-annotatedFact-checking by Politifact:
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/aug/28/fact-checking-donald-trumps-2020-rnc-speech/Fact-checking by The Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/28/fact-checking-president-trumps-acceptance-speech-2020-rnc/Fact-checking by CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/politics/rnc-night-four-fact-check/index.htmlAs reported by Vox:
https://www.vox.com/2020-presidential-election/2020/8/28/21405325/trump-rnc-speech-fact-check-cnn-daniel-dale- “Trump said Joe Biden is ‘talking about taking down the border wall.’ Biden has specifically, explicitly rejected that idea. He just said he’ll stop further additional construction.”
- “Trump claimed, as always, that he is the one who passed the veterans’ choice law. Barack Obama signed that into law in 2014. Trump signed a 2018 law to modify it.”
- “Trump said, ‘I have done more for the African American community than any president since Abraham Lincoln.’ That is ludicrous. Lyndon Johnson, for one, signed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.”
- “Trump again touted a ‘record 9 million job gain over the past three months.’ He didn’t mention, as usual, that that gain follows a record 22 million job loss over the previous two months.”
- “He said he’ll ‘continue to lower drug prices.’ They’ve increased during his presidency.”
- “He said they opened a Jerusalem embassy for less than $500,000. Early documents show it was at least $21 million.”
- “He claimed NATO member spending has increased for the first time in about 20 years. Spending, in fact, rose in 2015 and in 2016, before he took office.”
- “He said he will always, and Republicans will always, strongly protect people with preexisting conditions. That pledge has already been broken. He and they have repeatedly tried to weaken those protections in Obamacare.”
- “He claimed again that he banned travel from China and Europe. No, he imposed partial restrictions with many exemptions. Tens of thousands of people continued traveling over.”
- “He boasted about the Covid testing system and about his general response. Look, experts nearly universally say the US was fatally slow in its response, especially slow in setting up adequate testing.”
- “He said he ended what he called ‘a NAFTA nightmare’ and he signed a brand new US-Mexico-Canada agreement — the USMCA. That agreement preserves, maintains most of NAFTA.”
- “He boasted about building about 300 miles of border wall. What he didn’t say is that most of that is replacement barrier. As of August 7, according to official data, just 5 miles had been built where none existed before.”
- “He suggested Joe Biden would confiscate guns. That’s baseless. Biden is running on a non-mandatory buyback of so-called assault weapons.”
- “He said Democrats want to defund the police. Biden, again, doesn’t, has rejected that.”
- “He said he has ‘very good information’ that China wants Biden to win because Biden is soft on China or cheerleads for China. The US intelligence community says China wants Biden to win because it sees Trump as unpredictable.”
- “He said Biden vowed to close down charter schools. Biden’s plan is skeptical on charters, but would not abolish them entirely.”
- “He denounced Biden for voting for the Iraq War. Biden did indeed vote for the Iraq War. But what Trump doesn’t mention is that he also supported that invasion.”
- “He said Democrats twice removed the word ‘God’ from the Pledge of Allegiance at their convention. Two individual caucus meetings outside the main primetime programming did leave it out, but it was uttered in every primetime event.”
- “Trump denounced so-called cancel culture as an insidious, left-wing thing. He, Donald J. Trump, has tried to get dozens of people and entities canceled, fired, boycotted, including literally, last week, Goodyear.”
- “He said he imposed an order to give 10 years in prison to rioters. That’s a maximum discretionary sentence up to judges, in existing laws. His order just asked the government to fully enforce.”
- “He said Biden’s plan would eliminate America’s borders. No. Just no. It’s wrong.”
Nothing on that list approaches the absolute disregard for honesty and decency displayed by Biden when he repeated the "fine people" lie, which is used to tarnish Trump and his supporters as white supremacist sympathizers.
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I looked into Ax's bullet points. Some a half truths that are spun into a pretzel, but most of them are either stupid or outright lies.
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Let's just take the first one. Biden doesn't know where he's at most of the times, so it's no surprise that he has said he would take down the border wall, and later said he wouldn't. But to attempt to accuse Trump of lying by lying yourself (referring to the person who wrote the statement) is dishonest. Trump is correct. Biden has said numerous times that he would get rid of the wall.
The rest of them are equally stupid.
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Trump has said numerous times that he would get Mexico to pay for his wall, yet what he actually did has been to ask Americans to pay for the wall. Trump even shut down the American government that in his shameless attempts to get Americans to pay for his wall. Trump misappropriated money that Congress lawfully allocated for national emergency and military construction projects, funds that are meant to serve the American people and the American service men and women, to pay for his wall — all because Trump has been and continues to be too incompetent to get Mexico to pay for the wall like he repeatedly promised.
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“ Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s acceptance speech last week edged out President Trump’s lengthy Thursday night address in viewership, according to early Nielsen data. Among the six major broadcast and cable news networks, Trump’s speech brought in 19.85 million total viewers, the ratings firm announced Friday, compared with 21.8 million for Biden.“
The TV viewership numbers are in. Joe Biden’s acceptance speech has attracted bigger TV audience than Trump’s.
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Key theme of the campaign: ‘None of this would be happening if Donald Trump were President’.
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Who has been President for the past 3.5 years?
A. President Trump
B. Vice President BidenWhich party controlled President Office, Senate, and House of Representatives during the first two years of the current President term?
A. Republics
B. Democrats?Which party has currently control of two of the following three offices (President office, Senate, House of Representative)?
A. Republics
B. DemocratsWhat elected office or authority has Vice President Biden had in the last 3.5 years?
A. None
B. Deep State KingWho is the blame for the current unrest?
A. Any and all republic president from the last 100 years
B. Any and all democrat presidents from the last 100 years
C. The founding fathers of the US
D. Anybody as long as they are from the other party -
Are you trying to convince someone of something, or are you trying to fashion a string of words that could convince a toy artificial intelligence algorithm that a certain chain of logic could coherently blame Trump for the unrest?
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Are you trying to convince someone of something, or are you trying to fashion a string of words that could convince a toy artificial intelligence algorithm that a certain chain of logic could coherently blame Trump for the unrest?
@Horace said in Acceptance speech:
Are you trying to convince someone of something, or are you trying to fashion a string of words that could convince a toy artificial intelligence algorithm that a certain chain of logic could coherently blame Trump for the unrest?
My point is that MOST (maybe all) politicians (and presidents since I am talking about them in this forum thread) are very very quick to take credit when something is good but very very quick to blame the "other" guy when things go bad.
My understanding is that the US President is elected for a continuous 4 year term. not just the good months.
President Obama cannot say - "Only look at my President term for Jan, March, June, Sept of 2013. Jan, Feb, May, Aug of 2014, etc.)
President Trump cannot say - "Only look at my President term for XX months in 2017, March through Aug 2020 does not count, etc."
I have said this before, but I like the statement from US President Truman - "The Buck Stops Here"
I would like for once a modern president to stand up and say - " I am the President. What happens while I am President is my responsibility. No excuses. No blame to others. The buck stops here!!"
