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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #27

    So Jon, my question to you is, when you hear people you respect say things that run counter to something you find incontrovertible and entirely fact-based, do you humble your perspective in any way, or do you just dismiss their opinion as stupid/crazy?

    Education is extremely important.

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      jon-nyc
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      #28

      It depends I persuadable but at the same time happy to agree to disagree with someone I respect.

      I didn’t declare the incontrovertibly true. I said they seemed that way to me and specifically invited people to tell me why I’m wrong.

      By the way, there’s still time to tell me which of those two statements you disagree with.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on last edited by
        #29

        I'm not a Trump supporter, but I think you got it wrong with #1.

        Please love yourself.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          It depends I persuadable but at the same time happy to agree to disagree with someone I respect.

          I didn’t declare the incontrovertibly true. I said they seemed that way to me and specifically invited people to tell me why I’m wrong.

          By the way, there’s still time to tell me which of those two statements you disagree with.

          HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #30

          @jon-nyc said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

          It depends I persuadable but at the same time happy to agree to disagree with someone I respect.

          I didn’t declare the incontrovertibly true. I said they seemed that way to me and specifically invited people to tell me why I’m wrong.

          By the way, there’s still time to tell me which of those two statements you disagree with.

          I already provided arguments about Trump's effectiveness in reigning in wokeness, and even provided examples of wokeness being perpetuated by Biden that Trump would not have perpetuated. But I am sure you can provide examples of wokeness that you can tie to Trump being in office. These anecdotal arguments about an ambiguous and unmeasurable term like "wokeness" might lead one to discard any notion of "incontrovertible truth". It's an unearned top shelf framing of what is actually just another opinion.

          Why can a rational person expect things to be different a second time around? Because things will be different, to some degree. It would be irrational to expect them to be the same. Regarding the culture of wokeness, the pendulum and its momentum are not at the same place now as they were in 2015 leading up to that election. It's not a compelling argument to just assert that if Trump is in office, wokeness will follow its 2016 to 2020 trajectory. If you want to attempt to establish that with something beyond an assertion, please feel free. I don't even think TDS will be as pervasive this time around, much less a vaguely associated concept like "wokeness in the institutions".

          Education is extremely important.

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          • MikM Offline
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            #31

            We need that beating a dead horse emoji

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              We need that beating a dead horse emoji

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              wrote on last edited by
              #32

              @Mik said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

              We need that beating a dead horse emoji

              By all means, ignore any and all posts you choose. Mind your own business if you don't like a thread. I couldn't possibly care less what you think of the latest pulp fiction serials on netflix, but I don't poop on your threads about it.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • MikM Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #33

                Things always get testy around presidential elections.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Things always get testy around presidential elections.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #34

                  @Mik said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                  Things always get testy around presidential elections.

                  lol.

                  Some people do seem a little irritable. We could of course look upon it as an opportunity....

                  I was only joking

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    #35

                    Opportunity…to lampoon with unrelenting impunity

                    Elbows up!

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      Opportunity…to lampoon with unrelenting impunity

                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #36

                      @Renauda said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                      Opportunity…to lampoon with unrelenting impunity

                      I don't know, it's going to be a struggle. There's nothing remotely bizarre or ridiculous about either candidate, after all.

                      I was only joking

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #37

                        I know what you mean. It’s a desert out there…..targets of opportunity are a scarce commodity.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          #38

                          I do wish they'd bring back the Code Duello.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            I do wish they'd bring back the Code Duello.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @Jolly said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                            I do wish they'd bring back the Code Duello.

                            When you run out of clever things to say, shoot the guy who's made you look like an idiot?

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @Jolly said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                              I do wish they'd bring back the Code Duello.

                              When you run out of clever things to say, shoot the guy who's made you look like an idiot?

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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                              @Jolly said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                              I do wish they'd bring back the Code Duello.

                              When you run out of clever things to say, shoot the guy who's made you look like an idiot?

                              It's final and satisfying.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                                @Jolly said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                                I do wish they'd bring back the Code Duello.

                                When you run out of clever things to say, shoot the guy who's made you look like an idiot?

                                It's final and satisfying.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #41

                                @Jolly said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                                @Jolly said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                                I do wish they'd bring back the Code Duello.

                                When you run out of clever things to say, shoot the guy who's made you look like an idiot?

                                It's final and satisfying.

                                Assuming you haven't picked an argument with a bloke called 'Fast Eddie', or 'The Rifleman' or something.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Mik said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                                  Things always get testy around presidential elections.

                                  lol.

                                  Some people do seem a little irritable. We could of course look upon it as an opportunity....

                                  HoraceH Offline
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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #42

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                                  @Mik said in Riddle me this, Trump supporters:

                                  Things always get testy around presidential elections.

                                  lol.

                                  Some people do seem a little irritable. We could of course look upon it as an opportunity....

                                  Most attempts at starting conversations around here get ignored, so I am a little testy when conversations that posters are actually investing in, get dismissed as unworthy of appearing on these hallowed pages.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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