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Doggie end of life decisions

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    Been in that awful position. My heart goes out to you and your bride.

    Just remember if it's bad, he'd thank you for making the right decision if he could.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      @Horace

      I think it's actually pretty miraculous that he didn't bleed out and die, so he's got that going for him.

      Two of our friends had dogs with splenic masses (that turned out to be malignant) and had the spleen removed. The dogs bounced back and had some additional good months, but both of them ended up where you are at now as the cancer spread into the liver.

      It really boils down to what you think his life, and yours, will be if you proceed with treatment.

      If he was in reasonable health otherwise, isn't terribly old, and you can and want to spend the money to remove the spleen, then you might go the route of treating him.

      If he's got other problems, either health or advanced age, you might decide to let him go peacefully now.

      I've been in your shoes a bunch of times making this call and it's never easy. Sending you hugs.

      edit: And what Mik said.

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        Don't know if this helps:

        https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/health/splenic-mass-in-dogs-what-you-need-to-know/

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        • ? A Former User

          Don't know if this helps:

          https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/health/splenic-mass-in-dogs-what-you-need-to-know/

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          Horace
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          @wtg said in Doggie end of life decisions:

          Don't know if this helps:

          https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/health/splenic-mass-in-dogs-what-you-need-to-know/

          Looks about right. No easy way to make the decision. Thanks for the info WTG.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • kluursK Online
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            Horrible decision to make. Love with such creatures is like no other. There’s nothing good that can be said.

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              Sorry to hear that. Hugs to you.

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                Sorry to hear that. Hugs to you.

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                Horace
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                @taiwan_girl said in Doggie end of life decisions:

                Sorry to hear that. Hugs to you.

                Thanks TG. They’re starting surgery. We’ll see whether it goes well enough that he wakes up, then we’ll see after a biopsy how well the next few months go.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Sorry you have to go through this.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Tough day, fer shure.

                    Hang in there.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      Oh, man. This is so hard.

                      Hoping for at least a comfortable result.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • HoraceH Online
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                        Horace
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                        #14

                        Well he came out of it. Imagine carrying this around in your abdomen

                        IMG_0245.jpeg IMG_0244.jpeg

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          When will you get the pathology report?

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            When will you get the pathology report?

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                            @Mik said in Doggie end of life decisions:

                            When will you get the pathology report?

                            7 to 10 days.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Wow. I'm sorry you both had to go through that, Horace. How has the recovery been?

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                Wow. I'm sorry you both had to go through that, Horace. How has the recovery been?

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                                #18

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Doggie end of life decisions:

                                Wow. I'm sorry you both had to go through that, Horace. How has the recovery been?

                                He's on Fentanyl, which the vet pronounces fentanol, GK will be happy to hear. I hope this doesn't begin a downward spiral into opioid abuse, crime, and eventual homelessness. He does look good, but for all the fur that got shaved off. Everything rides on the biopsy for his prognosis.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  When our dog had his CCL repaired (cranial cruciate ligament - the dog equivalent of ACL) they put him on a fentanyl patch, iirc. He did well in recovery.

                                  We had to send him to drug rehab for a couple of weeks to shake the addiction, but he got through that OK.

                                  I'm no pathologist, but the purple-ish stuff in the front looks like spleen to me. It could be liver, but then I'd get sued. The other shit in back is really, really big. Without cutting into it and seeing what it looks like, impossible to guess benign vs malignant.

                                  That is one HUGE mass.

                                  Hoping for a good outcome - how long to wait?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Keeping fingers crossed for it being benign.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      When our dog had his CCL repaired (cranial cruciate ligament - the dog equivalent of ACL) they put him on a fentanyl patch, iirc. He did well in recovery.

                                      We had to send him to drug rehab for a couple of weeks to shake the addiction, but he got through that OK.

                                      I'm no pathologist, but the purple-ish stuff in the front looks like spleen to me. It could be liver, but then I'd get sued. The other shit in back is really, really big. Without cutting into it and seeing what it looks like, impossible to guess benign vs malignant.

                                      That is one HUGE mass.

                                      Hoping for a good outcome - how long to wait?

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #21

                                      @George-K said in Doggie end of life decisions:

                                      When our dog had his CCL repaired (cranial cruciate ligament - the dog equivalent of ACL) they put him on a fentanyl patch, iirc. He did well in recovery.

                                      We had to send him to drug rehab for a couple of weeks to shake the addiction, but he got through that OK.

                                      I'm no pathologist, but the purple-ish stuff in the front looks like spleen to me. It could be liver, but then I'd get sued. The other shit in back is really, really big. Without cutting into it and seeing what it looks like, impossible to guess benign vs malignant.

                                      That is one HUGE mass.

                                      Hoping for a good outcome - how long to wait?

                                      That’s a spleen with what looks like a xenomorph hatchling strangling it. The wait for the results will be 1 or 2 weeks. If it’s cancer, he may be in a decline by then.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Doggie end of life decisions:

                                        Wow. I'm sorry you both had to go through that, Horace. How has the recovery been?

                                        He's on Fentanyl, which the vet pronounces fentanol, GK will be happy to hear. I hope this doesn't begin a downward spiral into opioid abuse, crime, and eventual homelessness. He does look good, but for all the fur that got shaved off. Everything rides on the biopsy for his prognosis.

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                                        @Horace said in Doggie end of life decisions:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Doggie end of life decisions:

                                        Wow. I'm sorry you both had to go through that, Horace. How has the recovery been?

                                        He's on Fentanyl, which the vet pronounces fentanol, GK will be happy to hear. I hope this doesn't begin a downward spiral into opioid abuse, crime, and eventual homelessness. He does look good, but for all the fur that got shaved off. Everything rides on the biopsy for his prognosis.

                                        Glad to see that at least you are able to have your sense of humor. 🙂

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                                          How's the doggo?

                                          Any news from the vet?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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