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Doggie end of life decisions

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 16:38 last edited by
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    I'm sorry, Horace - that really sucks.

    I was only joking

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 16:40 last edited by
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      So sorry to hear.

      The Brad

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        Mik
        wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 16:59 last edited by
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        Been in that awful position. My heart goes out to you and your bride.

        Just remember if it's bad, he'd thank you for making the right decision if he could.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          A Former User
          wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 17:01 last edited by A Former User 9 May 2024, 17:12
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          @Horace

          I think it's actually pretty miraculous that he didn't bleed out and die, so he's got that going for him.

          Two of our friends had dogs with splenic masses (that turned out to be malignant) and had the spleen removed. The dogs bounced back and had some additional good months, but both of them ended up where you are at now as the cancer spread into the liver.

          It really boils down to what you think his life, and yours, will be if you proceed with treatment.

          If he was in reasonable health otherwise, isn't terribly old, and you can and want to spend the money to remove the spleen, then you might go the route of treating him.

          If he's got other problems, either health or advanced age, you might decide to let him go peacefully now.

          I've been in your shoes a bunch of times making this call and it's never easy. Sending you hugs.

          edit: And what Mik said.

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            A Former User
            wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 17:09 last edited by
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            Don't know if this helps:

            https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/health/splenic-mass-in-dogs-what-you-need-to-know/

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              5 Sept 2024, 17:09

              Don't know if this helps:

              https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/health/splenic-mass-in-dogs-what-you-need-to-know/

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              Horace
              wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 17:17 last edited by
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              @wtg said in Doggie end of life decisions:

              Don't know if this helps:

              https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/health/splenic-mass-in-dogs-what-you-need-to-know/

              Looks about right. No easy way to make the decision. Thanks for the info WTG.

              Education is extremely important.

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                kluurs
                wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 17:23 last edited by
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                Horrible decision to make. Love with such creatures is like no other. There’s nothing good that can be said.

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 17:55 last edited by
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                  Sorry to hear that. Hugs to you.

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                    5 Sept 2024, 17:55

                    Sorry to hear that. Hugs to you.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 17:58 last edited by
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                    @taiwan_girl said in Doggie end of life decisions:

                    Sorry to hear that. Hugs to you.

                    Thanks TG. They’re starting surgery. We’ll see whether it goes well enough that he wakes up, then we’ll see after a biopsy how well the next few months go.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 18:44 last edited by
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                      Sorry you have to go through this.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 20:16 last edited by
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                        Tough day, fer shure.

                        Hang in there.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          George K
                          wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 20:31 last edited by
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                          Oh, man. This is so hard.

                          Hoping for at least a comfortable result.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 20:32 last edited by
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                            Well he came out of it. Imagine carrying this around in your abdomen

                            IMG_0245.jpeg IMG_0244.jpeg

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 20:52 last edited by
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                              When will you get the pathology report?

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                5 Sept 2024, 20:52

                                When will you get the pathology report?

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 20:56 last edited by
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                                @Mik said in Doggie end of life decisions:

                                When will you get the pathology report?

                                7 to 10 days.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 20:59 last edited by
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                                  Wow. I'm sorry you both had to go through that, Horace. How has the recovery been?

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    5 Sept 2024, 20:59

                                    Wow. I'm sorry you both had to go through that, Horace. How has the recovery been?

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 5 Sept 2024, 22:47 last edited by Horace 9 May 2024, 22:48
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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Doggie end of life decisions:

                                    Wow. I'm sorry you both had to go through that, Horace. How has the recovery been?

                                    He's on Fentanyl, which the vet pronounces fentanol, GK will be happy to hear. I hope this doesn't begin a downward spiral into opioid abuse, crime, and eventual homelessness. He does look good, but for all the fur that got shaved off. Everything rides on the biopsy for his prognosis.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 6 Sept 2024, 00:27 last edited by
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                                      When our dog had his CCL repaired (cranial cruciate ligament - the dog equivalent of ACL) they put him on a fentanyl patch, iirc. He did well in recovery.

                                      We had to send him to drug rehab for a couple of weeks to shake the addiction, but he got through that OK.

                                      I'm no pathologist, but the purple-ish stuff in the front looks like spleen to me. It could be liver, but then I'd get sued. The other shit in back is really, really big. Without cutting into it and seeing what it looks like, impossible to guess benign vs malignant.

                                      That is one HUGE mass.

                                      Hoping for a good outcome - how long to wait?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 6 Sept 2024, 00:32 last edited by
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                                        Keeping fingers crossed for it being benign.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          6 Sept 2024, 00:27

                                          When our dog had his CCL repaired (cranial cruciate ligament - the dog equivalent of ACL) they put him on a fentanyl patch, iirc. He did well in recovery.

                                          We had to send him to drug rehab for a couple of weeks to shake the addiction, but he got through that OK.

                                          I'm no pathologist, but the purple-ish stuff in the front looks like spleen to me. It could be liver, but then I'd get sued. The other shit in back is really, really big. Without cutting into it and seeing what it looks like, impossible to guess benign vs malignant.

                                          That is one HUGE mass.

                                          Hoping for a good outcome - how long to wait?

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 6 Sept 2024, 00:37 last edited by
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                                          @George-K said in Doggie end of life decisions:

                                          When our dog had his CCL repaired (cranial cruciate ligament - the dog equivalent of ACL) they put him on a fentanyl patch, iirc. He did well in recovery.

                                          We had to send him to drug rehab for a couple of weeks to shake the addiction, but he got through that OK.

                                          I'm no pathologist, but the purple-ish stuff in the front looks like spleen to me. It could be liver, but then I'd get sued. The other shit in back is really, really big. Without cutting into it and seeing what it looks like, impossible to guess benign vs malignant.

                                          That is one HUGE mass.

                                          Hoping for a good outcome - how long to wait?

                                          That’s a spleen with what looks like a xenomorph hatchling strangling it. The wait for the results will be 1 or 2 weeks. If it’s cancer, he may be in a decline by then.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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