Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?

[jon-nyc]

Seems to reduce all-cause mortality for reasons not understood. With all the normal caveats of course.

https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2024.08.007

[Axtremus]

Nice!

[George K]

Which is fine if you don't mind the nausea, diarrhea, etc.

I saw a study indicating that about 40% of Wegovy/Ozempic users stop using it after 6 months.

And it's $1000 a month.

[Axtremus]

@George-K said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

And it's $1000 a month.

Price control FTW!

[jon-nyc]

Maybe we’d be better off following Michelle Obama’s RFK Jr’s advice.

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

Which is fine if you don't mind the nausea, diarrhea, etc.

I saw a study indicating that about 40% of Wegovy/Ozempic users stop using it after 6 months.

And it's $1000 a month.

Move to the Philippines, it’s only $165.

[Doctor Phibes]

@jon-nyc said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

Maybe we’d be better off following Michelle Obama’s RFK Jr’s advice.

Cow shit is organic. So are brain worms.

Giving people 3 healthy meals a day isn't that bad an idea. Except, of course, it's not going to help anybody lose weight.

[Mik]

I’ve read the same about Zepbound, Lily’s GLP1.

[Klaus]

@jon-nyc said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

Seems to reduce all-cause mortality for reasons not understood. With all the normal caveats of course.

https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2024.08.007

What is miraculous about it? The patients using Semaglutide lost weight. Less weight = fewer deaths from CV diseases. Or am I missing something?

Or are you saying that even when comparing patients with the same BMI, those who took semaglutide had fewer CV events? I only took a cursory look at the study, but it doesn't seem to say that.

[LuFins Dad]

@Klaus said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

@jon-nyc said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

Seems to reduce all-cause mortality for reasons not understood. With all the normal caveats of course.

https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2024.08.007

What is miraculous about it? The patients using Semaglutide lost weight. Less weight = fewer deaths from CV diseases. Or am I missing something?

Or are you saying that even when comparing patients with the same BMI, those who took semaglutide had fewer CV events? I only took a cursory look at the study, but it doesn't seem to say that.

Lizzo frowns at your fatphobic and racist “science” shenanigans.

[jon-nyc]

It reduces non-CV related deaths too, researchers weren’t expecting that and haven’t seen such as effect on other CV treatments.

[LuFins Dad]

Everybody knows that weight and CV is unrelated. The primary cause of CV Disease and Deaths is racism. Are you suggesting that Wegovy treats racism?

[Klaus]

@jon-nyc said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

It reduces non-CV related deaths too, researchers weren’t expecting that and haven’t seen such as effect on other CV treatments.

Yes, but both CV-related and non-CV related deaths are correlated to being overweight. It's not at all surprising that death rates go down when people stop being fat.

If people had lost weight in a different way, without semaglutide, they'd also have died less frequently.

[Horace]

@LuFins-Dad said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

Everybody knows that weight and CV is unrelated. The primary cause of CV Disease and Deaths is racism. Are you suggesting that Wegovy treats racism?

The only way to treat racism is to encourage fat white people to die.