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Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    Maybe we’d be better off following Michelle Obama’s RFK Jr’s advice.

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    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • George KG George K

      Which is fine if you don't mind the nausea, diarrhea, etc.

      I saw a study indicating that about 40% of Wegovy/Ozempic users stop using it after 6 months.

      And it's $1000 a month.

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      @George-K said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

      Which is fine if you don't mind the nausea, diarrhea, etc.

      I saw a study indicating that about 40% of Wegovy/Ozempic users stop using it after 6 months.

      And it's $1000 a month.

      Move to the Philippines, it’s only $165.

      The Brad

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Maybe we’d be better off following Michelle Obama’s RFK Jr’s advice.

        IMG_9671.jpeg

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        @jon-nyc said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

        Maybe we’d be better off following Michelle Obama’s RFK Jr’s advice.

        IMG_9671.jpeg

        Cow shit is organic. So are brain worms.

        Giving people 3 healthy meals a day isn't that bad an idea. Except, of course, it's not going to help anybody lose weight.

        I was only joking

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          I’ve read the same about Zepbound, Lily’s GLP1.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Seems to reduce all-cause mortality for reasons not understood. With all the normal caveats of course.

            https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2024.08.007

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            @jon-nyc said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

            Seems to reduce all-cause mortality for reasons not understood. With all the normal caveats of course.

            https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2024.08.007

            What is miraculous about it? The patients using Semaglutide lost weight. Less weight = fewer deaths from CV diseases. Or am I missing something?

            Or are you saying that even when comparing patients with the same BMI, those who took semaglutide had fewer CV events? I only took a cursory look at the study, but it doesn't seem to say that.

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              @jon-nyc said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

              Seems to reduce all-cause mortality for reasons not understood. With all the normal caveats of course.

              https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2024.08.007

              What is miraculous about it? The patients using Semaglutide lost weight. Less weight = fewer deaths from CV diseases. Or am I missing something?

              Or are you saying that even when comparing patients with the same BMI, those who took semaglutide had fewer CV events? I only took a cursory look at the study, but it doesn't seem to say that.

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              @Klaus said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

              @jon-nyc said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

              Seems to reduce all-cause mortality for reasons not understood. With all the normal caveats of course.

              https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2024.08.007

              What is miraculous about it? The patients using Semaglutide lost weight. Less weight = fewer deaths from CV diseases. Or am I missing something?

              Or are you saying that even when comparing patients with the same BMI, those who took semaglutide had fewer CV events? I only took a cursory look at the study, but it doesn't seem to say that.

              Lizzo frowns at your fatphobic and racist “science” shenanigans.

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              The Brad

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                It reduces non-CV related deaths too, researchers weren’t expecting that and haven’t seen such as effect on other CV treatments.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  Everybody knows that weight and CV is unrelated. The primary cause of CV Disease and Deaths is racism. Are you suggesting that Wegovy treats racism?

                  The Brad

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    It reduces non-CV related deaths too, researchers weren’t expecting that and haven’t seen such as effect on other CV treatments.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

                    It reduces non-CV related deaths too, researchers weren’t expecting that and haven’t seen such as effect on other CV treatments.

                    Yes, but both CV-related and non-CV related deaths are correlated to being overweight. It's not at all surprising that death rates go down when people stop being fat.

                    If people had lost weight in a different way, without semaglutide, they'd also have died less frequently.

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      Everybody knows that weight and CV is unrelated. The primary cause of CV Disease and Deaths is racism. Are you suggesting that Wegovy treats racism?

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Wegovy more miraculous than we knew?:

                      Everybody knows that weight and CV is unrelated. The primary cause of CV Disease and Deaths is racism. Are you suggesting that Wegovy treats racism?

                      The only way to treat racism is to encourage fat white people to die.

                      Education is extremely important.

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