The Kremlin Caucus
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wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 04:10 last edited by
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wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 11:32 last edited by
Hey, if we're going to focus on policies rather than personalities, how about examining Trump's policy on dealing with these two abject scumbags?
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wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 12:42 last edited by
I don't think Trump has a policy for dealing with you and Jon...
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wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 13:28 last edited by
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wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 13:31 last edited by
@Jolly said in The Kremlin Caucus:
I don't think Trump has a policy for dealing with you and Jon...
3/10. You tried, you failed.
Do you agree with what these two idiots wrote?
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wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 13:37 last edited by Jolly
Partially.
- I don't think the U.S. is the world's policeman. It is not worth our blood or treasure. I look at Ukraine as primarily a European problem that should have generated a European response.
- Russians are paranoid, Putin moreso. NATO expansion (and we were talking about that before the Ukraine War) does put them to thinking the worst.
I'm not as America First as either RFK or Tulsi, but I don't think either are absolute idiots.
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wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 13:40 last edited by
Maga acolytes have to be pretty non-committal about Russia. They don’t yet know what Trump will ultimately tell them their opinion is.
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Partially.
- I don't think the U.S. is the world's policeman. It is not worth our blood or treasure. I look at Ukraine as primarily a European problem that should have generated a European response.
- Russians are paranoid, Putin moreso. NATO expansion (and we were talking about that before the Ukraine War) does put them to thinking the worst.
I'm not as America First as either RFK or Tulsi, but I don't think either are absolute idiots.
wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 13:47 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Jolly said in The Kremlin Caucus:
Partially.
- I don't think the U.S. is the world's policeman. It is not worth our blood or treasure. I look at Ukraine as primarily a European problem that should have generated a European response.
- Russians are paranoid, Putin moreso. NATO expansion (and we were talking about that before the Ukraine War) does put them to thinking the worst.
I'm not as America First as either RFK or Tulsi, but I don't think either are absolute idiots.
Based on what they're writing I've got a pretty good idea of where they'd have stood in the 1930's. Just like RFK's Masshole grandfather.
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@Jolly said in The Kremlin Caucus:
Partially.
- I don't think the U.S. is the world's policeman. It is not worth our blood or treasure. I look at Ukraine as primarily a European problem that should have generated a European response.
- Russians are paranoid, Putin moreso. NATO expansion (and we were talking about that before the Ukraine War) does put them to thinking the worst.
I'm not as America First as either RFK or Tulsi, but I don't think either are absolute idiots.
Based on what they're writing I've got a pretty good idea of where they'd have stood in the 1930's. Just like RFK's Masshole grandfather.
wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 14:10 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in The Kremlin Caucus:
@Jolly said in The Kremlin Caucus:
Partially.
- I don't think the U.S. is the world's policeman. It is not worth our blood or treasure. I look at Ukraine as primarily a European problem that should have generated a European response.
- Russians are paranoid, Putin moreso. NATO expansion (and we were talking about that before the Ukraine War) does put them to thinking the worst.
I'm not as America First as either RFK or Tulsi, but I don't think either are absolute idiots.
Based on what they're writing I've got a pretty good idea of where they'd have stood in the 1930's. Just like RFK's Masshole grandfather.
Channeling your inner KathyK this morning, I see...
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Kremlin Caucus:
@Jolly said in The Kremlin Caucus:
Partially.
- I don't think the U.S. is the world's policeman. It is not worth our blood or treasure. I look at Ukraine as primarily a European problem that should have generated a European response.
- Russians are paranoid, Putin moreso. NATO expansion (and we were talking about that before the Ukraine War) does put them to thinking the worst.
I'm not as America First as either RFK or Tulsi, but I don't think either are absolute idiots.
Based on what they're writing I've got a pretty good idea of where they'd have stood in the 1930's. Just like RFK's Masshole grandfather.
Channeling your inner KathyK this morning, I see...
wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 14:49 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Jolly said in The Kremlin Caucus:
Channeling your inner KathyK this morning, I see...
Hardly. What these two are doing is undermining allies of the US who are engaged in an active war. Joseph Kennedy did the same thing in Britain during the London Blitz.
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@Jolly said in The Kremlin Caucus:
Channeling your inner KathyK this morning, I see...
Hardly. What these two are doing is undermining allies of the US who are engaged in an active war. Joseph Kennedy did the same thing in Britain during the London Blitz.
wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 16:02 last edited by Jolly@Doctor-Phibes said in The Kremlin Caucus:
@Jolly said in The Kremlin Caucus:
Channeling your inner KathyK this morning, I see...
Hardly. What these two are doing is undermining allies of the US who are engaged in an active war. Joseph Kennedy did the same thing in Britain during the London Blitz.
No, these two don't think we have a lot of business protecting a corrupt regime, without a vital natural interest at stake. Now, one can certainly disagree with that viewpoint, but having that viewpoint does not mean they're crazy.
BTW, back to WW2...The U.S. declared war on Japan, December 8, 1941. The U.S. did not declare war on the Third Reich until after Germany declared war on the U.S., four days after Pearl Harbor.
So here's an interesting thought exercise...If Hitler had not declared war on the U.S., when (or if) would the U.S. gave gone to war with Germany?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 16:15 last edited by Renauda
I don’t think either are idiots either. They are simply dead wrong in their assessment of Putin’s Russia and the role of NATO.
Russia was given every opportunity practicable in 1990’s and into the 2000’s towards a working relationship alongside rather than in opposition to NATO. There was even the possibility of a future membership. When it became apparent to the Kremlin that it could not dictate its conditions of cooperation or receive special privileges to joining the alliance it unilaterally chose to remain in opposition. Putin knows very well that NATO is exclusively a defensive alliance.
Kennedy and Gabbard either do not understand this inconvenient fact or have choosen to ignore it. Kennedy is a nutter and Gabbard should know better given her military rank as a reservist Lt Col..
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wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 16:16 last edited by Doctor Phibes
OK, I admit maybe 'idiots' was being charitable.
Crazy and cynical then.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Kremlin Caucus:
@Jolly said in The Kremlin Caucus:
Channeling your inner KathyK this morning, I see...
Hardly. What these two are doing is undermining allies of the US who are engaged in an active war. Joseph Kennedy did the same thing in Britain during the London Blitz.
No, these two don't think we have a lot of business protecting a corrupt regime, without a vital natural interest at stake. Now, one can certainly disagree with that viewpoint, but having that viewpoint does not mean they're crazy.
BTW, back to WW2...The U.S. declared war on Japan, December 8, 1941. The U.S. did not declare war on the Third Reich until after Germany declared war on the U.S., four days after Pearl Harbor.
So here's an interesting thought exercise...If Hitler had not declared war on the U.S., when (or if) would the U.S. gave gone to war with Germany?
wrote on 28 Aug 2024, 16:24 last edited by RenaudaSo here's an interesting thought exercise...If Hitler had not declared war on the U.S., when (or if) would the U.S. gave gone to war with Germany?
Actually it is not an interesting thought exercise in this conversation. Rather it’s one of your signature distractors from the topic at hand. It is irrelevant to the present day situation. You’ve tried to use it before in similar discussions here. Didn’t work then and won’t work now.
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wrote on 6 Sept 2024, 08:58 last edited by jon-nyc 9 Jun 2024, 08:58
I wonder why Russia paid him $1MM.
By the way, the Russians were paying Dave Rubin, too.
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wrote on 6 Sept 2024, 09:50 last edited by
Both Rubin and Poole say they didn’t know the source of the funds and therefore they are ‘victims’.
But really it demonstrates why they’re called useful idiots.
Second comment - you’re not curious who’s giving you a million dollars and why?
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wrote on 6 Sept 2024, 12:11 last edited by
I’ve commented before on here about channel flipping one night and running across OANN playing the Russian national anthem and a short film glorifying Mother Russia. It was very weird. Ever since, I’ve been suspicious of Russian influences in conservative media.
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wrote on 7 Sept 2024, 00:33 last edited by
The view from an adjacent conservative channel I follow, who's friends with Lauren Chen and her husband:
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wrote on 7 Sept 2024, 00:37 last edited by jon-nyc 9 Jul 2024, 00:39
Can you tl;dw it?
It’s plausible, though hardly exculpatory, that Dave ‘the tool’ Rubin and Tim ‘civil war now’ Poole didn’t know that the anonymous people giving them a million dollars weren’t the Russians. (That is to say, they were not only useful, but also idiots).
But Lauren Chen is in all probability dead to rights guilty. Read the indictment.
