Trump’s sister

[George K]

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

Apparently there’s a Melania tape being released soon too (criticizing the Trump kids). Recorded by someone else though, not the niece.

I never understood that relationship. I mean, c'mon, Mel, really.

Donald Trump?

DONALD TRUMP???

WTF is wrong with you, lady?

[Loki]

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

@Loki said in Trump’s sister:

Why can’t Maryanne speak for herself? Seems like a lot of dysfunction going on.

She probably got secretly duped by her niece.

Apparently there’s a Melania tape being released soon too (criticizing the Trump kids). Recorded by someone else though, not the niece.

How often do family members talk shit about each other, how often do spouses scream such invectives at each other. If you can’t see that your bias is in full control.

Let’s hear Maryanne confirm or deny her feelings. I’m sure she’s pretty stressed out, could you imagine if she distanced herself from it how devastating that would be to her niece?

Hey maybe she hates her brother. Bring it on.

[xenon]

@Loki said in Trump’s sister:

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

@Loki said in Trump’s sister:

Why can’t Maryanne speak for herself? Seems like a lot of dysfunction going on.

She probably got secretly duped by her niece.

Apparently there’s a Melania tape being released soon too (criticizing the Trump kids). Recorded by someone else though, not the niece.

How often do family members talk shit about each other, how often do spouses scream such invectives at each other. If you can’t see that your bias is in full control.

Let’s hear Maryanne confirm or deny her feelings. I’m sure she’s pretty stressed out, could you imagine if she distanced herself from it how devastating that would be to her niece?

Hey maybe she hates her brother. Bring it on.

So you’re saying it’s likely that Maryanne doesn’t believe what she said?

[Larry]

@George-K said in Trump’s sister:

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

Apparently there’s a Melania tape being released soon too (criticizing the Trump kids). Recorded by someone else though, not the niece.

I never understood that relationship. I mean, c'mon, Mel, really.

Donald Trump?

DONALD TRUMP???

WTF is wrong with you, lady?

The younger Donald Trump was a nice looking guy, loaded with personality, and rich. If you love someone, you don't stop loving them just because they get old and lose their looks.

Melania is not the same woman she was 20 or 30 years ago either, and I'm not talking about her looks. She has become a woman of faith, a good, caring mother, and I'm sure, a loving wife. That's why I get so pissed off when someone calls her a slur, or mentions the compromising pictures she had taken when she was younger. It says more about you (the generic you) when you toss her past up to her and pass judgment without any acknowledgement whatsoever of where she is now, than it does about you. Which one of us has lived such an exemplary life that you get to pass judgment on her like that? I am certain that she is with him today because they have built a good relationship over the years, she loves him and doesn't care that he's older than he was when she married him.

As for Trumps sister.. none of you ever have a pissed off relative who bad mouths You? Just because someone is a sibling doesn't mean there is a close bond, particularly by the time they're in their 70s. Hell, I've got two half brothers from my father's second marriage who are in their 50s or 60s now, and the first and last and ONLY time I ever met them they were in grade school. Wouldn't know either one of them if they walked up to me. If one of them started saying I beat my wife, how credible would that be?

[Larry]

@Loki said in Trump’s sister:

Why can’t Maryanne speak for herself? Seems like a lot of dysfunction going on.

It's fairly common, if one family member becomes filthy rich and then doesn't hand over tons of money to the others, for them to make snide, nasty comments if they think no one else will know. It's called jealousy and immaturity.

[Doctor Phibes]

I simply can't imagine any member of the Trump family making snide, nasty comments.

[Loki]

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

@Loki said in Trump’s sister:

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

@Loki said in Trump’s sister:

Why can’t Maryanne speak for herself? Seems like a lot of dysfunction going on.

She probably got secretly duped by her niece.

Apparently there’s a Melania tape being released soon too (criticizing the Trump kids). Recorded by someone else though, not the niece.

How often do family members talk shit about each other, how often do spouses scream such invectives at each other. If you can’t see that your bias is in full control.

Let’s hear Maryanne confirm or deny her feelings. I’m sure she’s pretty stressed out, could you imagine if she distanced herself from it how devastating that would be to her niece?

Hey maybe she hates her brother. Bring it on.

So you’re saying it’s likely that Maryanne doesn’t believe what she said?

I am not saying that but she ought to stand behind it. Why do you think she’s not talking?

[Loki]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump’s sister:

I simply can't imagine any member of the Trump family making snide, nasty comments.

Haha. It’s sooo rare.

[xenon]

@Loki said in Trump’s sister:

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

@Loki said in Trump’s sister:

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

@Loki said in Trump’s sister:

Why can’t Maryanne speak for herself? Seems like a lot of dysfunction going on.

She probably got secretly duped by her niece.

Apparently there’s a Melania tape being released soon too (criticizing the Trump kids). Recorded by someone else though, not the niece.

How often do family members talk shit about each other, how often do spouses scream such invectives at each other. If you can’t see that your bias is in full control.

Let’s hear Maryanne confirm or deny her feelings. I’m sure she’s pretty stressed out, could you imagine if she distanced herself from it how devastating that would be to her niece?

Hey maybe she hates her brother. Bring it on.

So you’re saying it’s likely that Maryanne doesn’t believe what she said?

I am not saying that but she ought to stand behind it. Why do you think she’s not talking?

Most likely because it's f'ing awkward.

[xenon]

I have very incomplete information - but from what I directly observe the man is a liar, has low integrity and doesn't seem to think about issues very deeply (doesn't mean he can't be effective).

And Maryanne seemed to agree. That's why I found it interesting. It corroborates my personal judgement.

[Larry]

What I find interesting is the TDS and the "chicken pecking" so many people are so invested in. Chicken pecking - if one chicken in a chicken house gets pecked by another chicken more than a few times, gradually other chickens will come over and start pecking it too, until the now wounded chicken has been pecked to death by the chicken mob. Some humans it seems, have the brains of a chicken because thats whats happening - a group of bird brains are trying to peck him to death...

[Larry]

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

I have very incomplete information - but from what I directly observe the man is a liar, has low integrity and doesn't seem to think about issues very deeply (doesn't mean he can't be effective).

And Maryanne seemed to agree. That's why I found it interesting. It corroborates my personal judgement.

Yes, im aware thats how you see it. Perhaps if you took the time to objectively get more complete information about the man you wouldn't have such an incorrect opinion.

[xenon]

@Larry said in Trump’s sister:

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

I have very incomplete information - but from what I directly observe the man is a liar, has low integrity and doesn't seem to think about issues very deeply (doesn't mean he can't be effective).

And Maryanne seemed to agree. That's why I found it interesting. It corroborates my personal judgement.

Yes, im aware thats how you see it. Perhaps if you took the time to objectively get more complete information about the man you wouldn't have such an incorrect opinion.

I'm a simple man, Larry. I tend to judge people on character and integrity before other attributes.

I can certainly understand voting for the man if you think abortion, tax cuts, etc. are a moral or survival imperative.

I just don't feel strong enough about policy (or think the President has so much influence there) that it overrides my judgement of his character.

Now if you're trying to convince me that he's actually a good guy... well, let's just agree to disagree.

[Larry]

Go back 30 years ago and listen to interviews with Trump. Go back 40. You will find that the policies he states today are exactly the same as what he said then. He was a darling of the democrats. They adored getting the chance to rub shoulders with him. In fact, right up until he mentioned he might run for president on the Republican ticket the democrats couldn't sing his praises loud enough.

Then he said he was going to run for president as...... a (o the horror!!!) Republican..... and overnight he went from a Hollywood A lister with entertainment wheels and democrat politicians lined up wanting to lick his ass to a dumb, arrogant, etc....

Just like EVERY. OTHER. REPUBLICAN. TO. RUN. FOR. THE. OFFICE.

And of course, the steeple took their cue and gleefully fell in line to peck the chicken.

[Larry]

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

@Larry said in Trump’s sister:

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

I have very incomplete information - but from what I directly observe the man is a liar, has low integrity and doesn't seem to think about issues very deeply (doesn't mean he can't be effective).

And Maryanne seemed to agree. That's why I found it interesting. It corroborates my personal judgement.

Yes, im aware thats how you see it. Perhaps if you took the time to objectively get more complete information about the man you wouldn't have such an incorrect opinion.

I'm a simple man, Larry. I tend to judge people on character and integrity before other attributes.

I can certainly understand voting for the man if you think abortion, tax cuts, etc. are a moral or survival imperative.

I just don't feel strong enough about policy (or think the President has so much influence there) that it overrides my judgement of his character.

Now if you're trying to convince me that he's actually a good guy... well, let's just agree to disagree.

If you're going to judge a man on his character and integrity, then have the decency to learn something about his character and decency before you judge.

As for your view that abortion, tax cuts, etc are less important than your flawed opinion of the man's character, then all I can say is I feel sorry for you.

And yes, he actually IS a decent man. Before you say he's not, lay your own flaws on the table.

[xenon]

@Larry said in Trump’s sister:

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

@Larry said in Trump’s sister:

@xenon said in Trump’s sister:

I have very incomplete information - but from what I directly observe the man is a liar, has low integrity and doesn't seem to think about issues very deeply (doesn't mean he can't be effective).

And Maryanne seemed to agree. That's why I found it interesting. It corroborates my personal judgement.

Yes, im aware thats how you see it. Perhaps if you took the time to objectively get more complete information about the man you wouldn't have such an incorrect opinion.

I'm a simple man, Larry. I tend to judge people on character and integrity before other attributes.

I can certainly understand voting for the man if you think abortion, tax cuts, etc. are a moral or survival imperative.

I just don't feel strong enough about policy (or think the President has so much influence there) that it overrides my judgement of his character.

Now if you're trying to convince me that he's actually a good guy... well, let's just agree to disagree.

If you're going to judge a man on his character and integrity, then have the decency to learn something about his character and decency before you judge.

As for your view that abortion, tax cuts, etc are less important than your flawed opinion of the man's character, then all I can say is I feel sorry for you.

And yes, he actually IS a decent man. Before you say he's not, lay your own flaws on the table.

For me it was pretty clear early on: denigrating POWs, scamming and stiffing contractors who worked for him, other literal scams like Trump University, etc.

Stuff like that is enough for me.

I get the ends-justify-the-means stuff. Liking his wrecking ball approach to China. Not wanting Hilary.

But on him personally - he's a dud, always has been.

As I've mentioned, I've disliked him since a dingbat cousin of mine idolized him during the apprentice days.

[Larry]

And every damned one of those things, you have the leftwing media's spun version of them. You're a sheep, and you are being led by the nose.

[xenon]

@Larry said in Trump’s sister:

And every damned one of those things, you have the leftwing media's spun version of them. You're a sheep, and you are being led by the nose.

When it comes to Trump coverage - I tend to read almost exclusively pro-Trump source since I know I'm personally wired to dislike the man.

These days, I mostly just keep to videos and tweets of him.

Defend the POW thing. I don't see how you do it.

[Larry]

Let's talk about character and integrity.

Last week the democrats spent a week telling us how horrible thing are in America. We literally MUST get rid of Trump and put them back in power or the world is going to come to an end. We saw men dressed up like women denigrate our pledge, omit God, and we watched as a preacher prayed to that same God they want to eliminate and tell us if we didn't fall in line with their agenda, we would go to he'll.

Six minutes into the Republican convention and the preacher prayed for BOTH parties, and two different men recited the pledge, emphasizing the line "under God".

You'll have to forgive me, but I will not take anyone seriously who tells me they don't like Trump because of character and integrity issues, and allow the Godless, mentally ill Left to have a pass. Your3 just not credible.

[xenon]

@Larry said in Trump’s sister:

Let's talk about character and integrity.

Last week the democrats spent a week telling us how horrible thing are in America. We literally MUST get rid of Trump and put them back in power or the world is going to come to an end. We saw men dressed up like women denigrate our pledge, omit God, and we watched as a preacher prayed to that same God they want to eliminate and tell us if we didn't fall in line with their agenda, we would go to he'll.

Six minutes into the Republican convention and the preacher prayed for BOTH parties, and two different men recited the pledge, emphasizing the line "under God".

You'll have to forgive me, but I will not take anyone seriously who tells me they don't like Trump because of character and integrity issues, and allow the Godless, mentally ill Left to have a pass. Your3 just not credible.

a) I dunno anything about that.

b) I thought the "under god" thing was added in the 50's as a response to communism. Whoever made the pledge originally didn't have "under god" in it.

c) I'm not an atheist, but I find it odd to implicitly say that you have to believe in god to pledge allegiance to this country

d) that has nothing to do with my question on the POW thing.