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    George K
    wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 01:52 last edited by
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    https://www.amazon.com/Winning-Your-Election-Wellstone-Way/dp/081665333X

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    I'm not about to buy this book to check the authenticity of the text.

    You decide.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • J Jolly
      8 Aug 2024, 00:10

      An excerpt from the WSJ opinion pages:

      Tim Walz has such a bad record as Minnesota’s governor that I was astonished when he landed on Vice President Kamala Harris’s vice-presidential shortlist. As Minnesota’s Center of the American Experiment has documented, under Mr. Walz Minnesota has become a high-crime state. Student achievement has tumbled as spending on schools has skyrocketed. Per capita gross domestic product has fallen below the national average. Minnesotans have joined residents of New York, California and Illinois in fleeing their home state.
      Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro—also on Ms. Harris’s shortlist—made sense to me. Pennsylvania is a key state. Mr. Shapiro seems to be a man of substance and would give liberal Jews a reason to vote for Ms. Harris without a guilty conscience. As a Jewish supporter of Israel, I worried that Mr. Shapiro would give the animus throbbing in the heart of the Democratic Party cover. Indeed, that animus drove a nasty intraparty campaign against him.

      But Tim Walz? I’m a conservative Republican. I don’t completely understand Democrats’ ways. As an observer of Minnesota politics, however, I understand how Mr. Walz became governor. Having served six terms in Congress from a rural district, he challenged the endorsed DFL (Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party) candidate—a liberal metro-area state senator, Erin Murphy—in the 2018 DFL primary. Ms. Murphy was also challenged by another metro-area liberal, Lori Swanson, then state attorney general. With Ms. Murphy and Ms. Swanson dividing the liberal urban vote, Mr. Walz and his far-left running mate, former state Rep. Peggy Flanagan, won the primary with 41%.

      On taking office in 2019, Gov. Walz was restrained by a one-seat Republican majority in the state Senate—until Covid hit in the spring of 2020. He declared a state of emergency on March 25, 2020, and ruled by decree for 15 months. He proclaimed the emergency on the basis of an allegedly sophisticated Minnesota Model projection of the virus’s course in the state. In fact, the projection reflected a weekend’s work by graduate students at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health. Relying on their research, Mr. Walz presented a scenario in which an estimated 74,000 Minnesotans would perish from the virus. The following week the Star Tribune reported that with the lockdown Mr. Walz ordered, 50,000 would die. Maybe it would have been preferable to address the virus through democratic means.

      Having destroyed jobs and impeded life routines, including family get-togethers and church attendance, Mr. Walz finally let his one-man rule lapse on July 1, 2021. When the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center stopped counting in March 2023, the deaths of 14,870 Minnesotans were attributed to the virus. (In 2020 I successfully sued the administration for excluding me from Health Department press briefings on Covid.)

      During the state of emergency, protests broke out in Minneapolis on Memorial Day 2020 following the death of George Floyd. That Thursday, rioters burned Minneapolis’s Third Precinct police station to the ground. Mr. Walz didn’t deploy the National Guard until the weekend. Riots, arson and looting throughout the Twin Cities caused about $500 million in damage.

      Minnesota leads the nation in Covid fraud. Under the auspices of the Feeding Our Future nonprofit, its founder, Aimee Bock, allegedly recruited mostly young Somali men to seek reimbursement for millions of meals supposedly served to poor students and families. According to indictments handed up by a grand jury to U.S. Attorney Andrew Luger, Ms. Bock and others allegedly defrauded the state and federal government of $250 million. Ms. Bock has pleaded not guilty to the fraud charges.

      Among the 70 defendants charged to date, 18 have pleaded guilty. In April the first of the cases to go to trial had seven defendants; five were convicted. The remaining cases have yet to be tried. In all, the Minnesota Department of Education oversaw the payout of $250 million to reimburse fictitious meals. The nature and scale of the fraud are staggering. Mr. Walz tried to blame state district court judge John Guthmann, who in April 2021 handled a case regarding the department’s processing of applications for reimbursements. According to Mr. Walz, Judge Guthmann ordered the state to continue payouts to the alleged perpetrators of the fraud even after the state Education Department discovered it.

      In September 2022, Judge Guthmann authorized a news release titled “Correcting media reports and statements by Gov. Tim Walz concerning orders issued by the court.” The release concluded: “As the public court record and Judge Guthmann’s orders make plain, Judge Guthmann never issued an order requiring the MN Department of Education to resume food reimbursement payments to FOF. The Department of Education voluntarily resumed payments and informed the court that FOF resolved the ‘serious deficiencies’ that prompted it to suspend payments temporarily. All of the MN Department of Education food reimbursement payments to FOF were made voluntarily, without any court order.”

      In November 2022 Mr. Walz was elected to a second term, and the DFL won majorities in both chambers of the Legislature. In the preceding two years the state had accumulated an $18 billion budget surplus. With the DFL in full control, Mr. Walz and the Legislature have spent the $18 billion surplus on infrastructure, education and other programs that will burden the state for years. They have also raised taxes.

      Mr. Walz and his DFL colleagues have backed measures establishing Minnesota as a mecca for abortion and a “trans refuge.” The legislation prohibits enforcing out-of-state subpoenas, arrest warrants and extradition requests for people from other states who seek treatment that is legal in Minnesota. It also bars complying with court orders issued in other states to remove children from their parents’ custody for authorizing hormone treatment or surgery to alter sex characteristics.

      Like so many Democrats who have kept up with the demands of the progressive agenda, Mr. Walz has “grown” in office. In his second term, he has been the most left-wing Minnesota governor since the socialist Floyd B. Olson (1931-36). I doubt that Mr. Walz could be elected to Congress in his old district, which is now represented by a Republican. The idea that he can appeal to voters who don’t already support Ms. Harris seems far-fetched.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 01:55 last edited by
      #74

      @Jolly

      The idea that he can appeal to voters who don’t already support Ms. Harris seems far-fetched.

      Sort of like Vance with Trump?

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • J jon-nyc
        8 Aug 2024, 01:55

        @Jolly

        The idea that he can appeal to voters who don’t already support Ms. Harris seems far-fetched.

        Sort of like Vance with Trump?

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        Jolly
        wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 01:57 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

        @Jolly

        The idea that he can appeal to voters who don’t already support Ms. Harris seems far-fetched.

        Sort of like Vance with Trump?

        You think Walz will carry on the legacy of Kamala-lama-ding-dong?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • J Jolly
          8 Aug 2024, 00:37

          No stocks, bonds or real estate...

          https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/07/walz-stocks-real-estate-harris-election.html

          Dude, why not invest in America?

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 01:58 last edited by
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          @Jolly said in It's Walz:

          No stocks, bonds or real estate...

          https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/07/walz-stocks-real-estate-harris-election.html

          Dude, why not invest in America?

          I only know a few teachers, but none of them own stocks or bonds. Did he never own real estate? Or did he sell his home after moving into the governors mansion.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • J jon-nyc
            8 Aug 2024, 01:58

            @Jolly said in It's Walz:

            No stocks, bonds or real estate...

            https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/07/walz-stocks-real-estate-harris-election.html

            Dude, why not invest in America?

            I only know a few teachers, but none of them own stocks or bonds. Did he never own real estate? Or did he sell his home after moving into the governors mansion.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 02:02 last edited by Jolly 8 Aug 2024, 02:02
            #77

            @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

            @Jolly said in It's Walz:

            No stocks, bonds or real estate...

            https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/07/walz-stocks-real-estate-harris-election.html

            Dude, why not invest in America?

            I only know a few teachers, but none of them own stocks or bonds. Did he never own real estate? Or did he sell his home after moving into the governors mansion.

            Over $300,000 for his home. Sold when he moved. He owns none now.

            And...I covered school districts in nine parishes. I had multiple clients that owned mutual funds, varying from target date funds, sector funds and index funds, among others.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Jolly
              wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 02:21 last edited by
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              Demotion confirmed...

              https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/past-criticisms-vp-nominee-tim-walzs-retirement-military-resurface

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 02:50 last edited by
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                Command Sergeant Major master sergeant is still better than cadet bone spur.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 02:52 last edited by
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                  Don't think Trump lied about his military service.

                  Walz did.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    8 Aug 2024, 02:52

                    Don't think Trump lied about his military service.

                    Walz did.

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 02:56 last edited by
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                    @Jolly said in It's Walz:

                    Don't think Trump lied about his military service.

                    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/02/27/trumps-lawyer-no-basis-for-presidents-medical-deferment-from-vietnam/

                    It still remains that master sergeant > cadet bone spur.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 03:18 last edited by
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                      But yet you voted for Captain Asthma?😄

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        8 Aug 2024, 03:18

                        But yet you voted for Captain Asthma?😄

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 03:50 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in It's Walz:

                        But yet you voted for Captain Asthma?😄

                        Remind me again who is “Captain Asthma”?

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                          8 Aug 2024, 03:50

                          @Jolly said in It's Walz:

                          But yet you voted for Captain Asthma?😄

                          Remind me again who is “Captain Asthma”?

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                          George K
                          wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 11:46 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus said in It's Walz:

                          @Jolly said in It's Walz:

                          But yet you voted for Captain Asthma?😄

                          Remind me again who is “Captain Asthma”?

                          https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-draft-deferments-asthma/

                          Biden received five draft deferments on account of his studies, and after a physical exam in 1968, was disqualified from military service except in the event of a national emergency because of having asthma as a teenager. He never served in the military.

                          And this:

                          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/making-splash-joe-biden-returns-lifeguard-chair-n776951

                          As a teenager in the summer of 1962, former Vice President Joe Biden worked as a lifeguard at what was known as the Prices Run swimming pool in Wilmington, Delaware.

                          And this:

                          https://www.thedp.com/article/2020/08/joe-biden-penn-athletics-football-archmere-2020-election-delaware

                          “As much as I lacked confidence in my ability to communicate verbally, I always had confidence in my athletic ability,” Biden wrote in his memoir, "Promises to Keep: On Life and Politics." “Sports were as natural to me as speaking was unnatural. And sports turned out to be my ticket to acceptance — and more. I wasn’t easily intimidated in a game, so even when I stuttered, I was always the kid who said, ‘Give me the ball.’”

                          Unfit for military duty, but fit enough to be a lifeguard and play football.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            7 Aug 2024, 16:06

                            @George-K said in It's Walz:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                            WALZ: "In Minnesota, we respect our neighbors and their personal choices that they make. Even if we wouldn't make the same choice for ourselves, there's a golden rule: Mind your own damn business."

                            They ought to run a commercial with him saying that, then the audio of the snitch line…

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                            George K
                            wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 11:47 last edited by
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                            @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                            the snitch line…

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 12:03 last edited by
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                              Giggles & Snitch. The face of the Demonrat Party.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • G George K
                                    8 Aug 2024, 11:46

                                    @Axtremus said in It's Walz:

                                    @Jolly said in It's Walz:

                                    But yet you voted for Captain Asthma?😄

                                    Remind me again who is “Captain Asthma”?

                                    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-draft-deferments-asthma/

                                    Biden received five draft deferments on account of his studies, and after a physical exam in 1968, was disqualified from military service except in the event of a national emergency because of having asthma as a teenager. He never served in the military.

                                    And this:

                                    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/making-splash-joe-biden-returns-lifeguard-chair-n776951

                                    As a teenager in the summer of 1962, former Vice President Joe Biden worked as a lifeguard at what was known as the Prices Run swimming pool in Wilmington, Delaware.

                                    And this:

                                    https://www.thedp.com/article/2020/08/joe-biden-penn-athletics-football-archmere-2020-election-delaware

                                    “As much as I lacked confidence in my ability to communicate verbally, I always had confidence in my athletic ability,” Biden wrote in his memoir, "Promises to Keep: On Life and Politics." “Sports were as natural to me as speaking was unnatural. And sports turned out to be my ticket to acceptance — and more. I wasn’t easily intimidated in a game, so even when I stuttered, I was always the kid who said, ‘Give me the ball.’”

                                    Unfit for military duty, but fit enough to be a lifeguard and play football.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 12:24 last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                    Unfit for military duty, but fit enough to be a lifeguard and play football.

                                    Is that supposed to be unusual?

                                    Can it not simply be that the military and the civilian football team/lifeguard employer used different criteria to qualify enlistees/players/lifeguards?

                                    Not sure how big a “football school” Biden attended, is the typical high school/collegiate football training physically tougher than, say, military boot camp? Is the typical lifeguard training physically tougher than military boot camp?

                                    I can see one arguing that “Captain Asthma” is just as bad as “Cadet Bone Spur,” but no worse. If someone has a coherent argument for why “Captain Asthma” is somehow worse than “Cadet Bone Spur,” I’d like to hear it.

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                                      8 Aug 2024, 12:24

                                      @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                      Unfit for military duty, but fit enough to be a lifeguard and play football.

                                      Is that supposed to be unusual?

                                      Can it not simply be that the military and the civilian football team/lifeguard employer used different criteria to qualify enlistees/players/lifeguards?

                                      Not sure how big a “football school” Biden attended, is the typical high school/collegiate football training physically tougher than, say, military boot camp? Is the typical lifeguard training physically tougher than military boot camp?

                                      I can see one arguing that “Captain Asthma” is just as bad as “Cadet Bone Spur,” but no worse. If someone has a coherent argument for why “Captain Asthma” is somehow worse than “Cadet Bone Spur,” I’d like to hear it.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 12:47 last edited by George K 8 Aug 2024, 12:49
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                                      @Axtremus said in It's Walz:

                                      I can see one arguing that “Captain Asthma” is just as bad as “Cadet Bone Spur,” but no worse

                                      I never said it was worse. I implied it's equivalent.

                                      Yet, you never addressed the issue of Biden's deferment(s) until today, AFAIK.

                                      is the typical high school/collegiate football training physically tougher than, say, military boot camp?

                                      I have no clue, but I would guess they're equivalent. @jolly would know more than I do.

                                      Is the typical lifeguard training physically tougher than military boot camp?

                                      Again, I don't know. But you have to be a good, strong swimmer, right? You have to be able to hold your breath, and swim while breathing. You have to be strong enough to pull someone out of the water. That's a tall order for someone whose asthma is bad enough to get them out of military service.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • G George K
                                        8 Aug 2024, 12:47

                                        @Axtremus said in It's Walz:

                                        I can see one arguing that “Captain Asthma” is just as bad as “Cadet Bone Spur,” but no worse

                                        I never said it was worse. I implied it's equivalent.

                                        Yet, you never addressed the issue of Biden's deferment(s) until today, AFAIK.

                                        is the typical high school/collegiate football training physically tougher than, say, military boot camp?

                                        I have no clue, but I would guess they're equivalent. @jolly would know more than I do.

                                        Is the typical lifeguard training physically tougher than military boot camp?

                                        Again, I don't know. But you have to be a good, strong swimmer, right? You have to be able to hold your breath, and swim while breathing. You have to be strong enough to pull someone out of the water. That's a tall order for someone whose asthma is bad enough to get them out of military service.

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                                        wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 12:58 last edited by
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                                        @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                        Again, I don't know. But you have to be a good, strong swimmer, right? You have to be able to hold your breath, and swim while breathing. You have to be strong enough to pull someone out of the water. That's a tall order for someone whose asthma is bad enough to get them out of military service.

                                        Asthma fucks you up when you swim or play football in all but the very lightest of cases.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • G George K
                                          8 Aug 2024, 12:47

                                          @Axtremus said in It's Walz:

                                          I can see one arguing that “Captain Asthma” is just as bad as “Cadet Bone Spur,” but no worse

                                          I never said it was worse. I implied it's equivalent.

                                          Yet, you never addressed the issue of Biden's deferment(s) until today, AFAIK.

                                          is the typical high school/collegiate football training physically tougher than, say, military boot camp?

                                          I have no clue, but I would guess they're equivalent. @jolly would know more than I do.

                                          Is the typical lifeguard training physically tougher than military boot camp?

                                          Again, I don't know. But you have to be a good, strong swimmer, right? You have to be able to hold your breath, and swim while breathing. You have to be strong enough to pull someone out of the water. That's a tall order for someone whose asthma is bad enough to get them out of military service.

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 8 Aug 2024, 13:01 last edited by
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                                          @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                          Yet, you never addressed the issue of Biden's deferment(s) until today, AFAIK.

                                          Six days ago: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/291985

                                          I didn’t know if you were referring to Biden at the time, but I addressed “asthma” in the context of military deferment and playing football and working as a lifeguard.

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