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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 14:18 last edited by
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    This kills the Kamalamentum that built up over the last few weeks and should allow the race to start getting into the issues.

    The Brad

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 14:52 last edited by
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      The Brad

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        George K
        wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 16:47 last edited by George K 8 Jun 2024, 16:48
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        https://www.wctrib.com/community/letters/the-truth-about-tim-walz

        On November 1st, 2006, Tom Hagen, Iraq War Veteran, wrote a letter to the editor of the Winona Daily News. Here are a couple of sentences from the letter: But even more disturbing is the fact that Walz quickly retired after learning that his unit -southern Minnesota's 1-125 FA Battalion - would be sent to Iraq. For Tim Walz to abandon his fellow soldiers and quit when they needed experienced leadership most is disheartening.

        Here is part of Tim Walzs response: After completing 20 years of service in 2001, I re-enlisted to serve our country for an additional four years following Sept. 11 and retired the year before my battalion was deployed to Iraq in order to run for Congress.

        According to his official Report of Separation and Record of Service, he re-enlisted for six years on September 18th, 2001. However, in his response he says that he re-enlisted for four years, conveniently retiring a year before his battalion was deployed to Iraq. Even if he had re-enlisted for four years following Sept.11, his retirement date would have been September 18th, 2005. Why then did he "retire" on May 16th, 2005, before his supposed four-year enlistment was up? And he makes it sound like he "retired" a year before his battalion deployed to Iraq; when in reality he knew when he "retired" that the battalion would be deployed to Iraq.

        The bottom line in all of this is gut wrenching and sad to explain. When the nation called, he quit. He failed to complete the United States Army Sergeants Major Academy. He failed to serve for two years following completion of the academy, which he dropped out of. He failed to serve two years after the conditional promotion to Command Sergeant Major. He failed to fulfill the full six years of the enlistment he signed on September 18th, 2001. He failed his country. He failed his state. He failed the Minnesota Army National Guard, the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion, and his fellow Soldiers. And he failed to lead by example. Shameful.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          6 Aug 2024, 14:52

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 18:02 last edited by
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          @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

          Looks like scenes from the Trump administration to me.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
          L A 2 Replies Last reply 6 Aug 2024, 18:11
          • G George K
            6 Aug 2024, 16:47

            https://www.wctrib.com/community/letters/the-truth-about-tim-walz

            On November 1st, 2006, Tom Hagen, Iraq War Veteran, wrote a letter to the editor of the Winona Daily News. Here are a couple of sentences from the letter: But even more disturbing is the fact that Walz quickly retired after learning that his unit -southern Minnesota's 1-125 FA Battalion - would be sent to Iraq. For Tim Walz to abandon his fellow soldiers and quit when they needed experienced leadership most is disheartening.

            Here is part of Tim Walzs response: After completing 20 years of service in 2001, I re-enlisted to serve our country for an additional four years following Sept. 11 and retired the year before my battalion was deployed to Iraq in order to run for Congress.

            According to his official Report of Separation and Record of Service, he re-enlisted for six years on September 18th, 2001. However, in his response he says that he re-enlisted for four years, conveniently retiring a year before his battalion was deployed to Iraq. Even if he had re-enlisted for four years following Sept.11, his retirement date would have been September 18th, 2005. Why then did he "retire" on May 16th, 2005, before his supposed four-year enlistment was up? And he makes it sound like he "retired" a year before his battalion deployed to Iraq; when in reality he knew when he "retired" that the battalion would be deployed to Iraq.

            The bottom line in all of this is gut wrenching and sad to explain. When the nation called, he quit. He failed to complete the United States Army Sergeants Major Academy. He failed to serve for two years following completion of the academy, which he dropped out of. He failed to serve two years after the conditional promotion to Command Sergeant Major. He failed to fulfill the full six years of the enlistment he signed on September 18th, 2001. He failed his country. He failed his state. He failed the Minnesota Army National Guard, the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion, and his fellow Soldiers. And he failed to lead by example. Shameful.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 18:04 last edited by
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            @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Renauda
              wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 18:08 last edited by
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              I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

              This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

              Elbows up!

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                6 Aug 2024, 18:02

                @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                Looks like scenes from the Trump administration to me.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 18:11 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                Looks like scenes from the Trump administration to me.

                I fail to see how the President has anything to do with local and state law enforcement.

                The Brad

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                  6 Aug 2024, 18:08

                  I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

                  This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 18:14 last edited by
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                  @Renauda said in It's Walz:

                  I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

                  This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

                  Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.

                  The Brad

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    6 Aug 2024, 18:04

                    @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 18:17 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                    @George-K Wait until he finds out what Trump did to skirt his duty.

                    That asthma is a bitch isn’t it, esp when youre a lifeguard football player?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:01 last edited by
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                      The Brad

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                      • G George K
                        6 Aug 2024, 13:15

                        Does NOT picking Shapiro put Pennsylvania more into play? Minnesota's been a fairly reliable blue state for a long time.

                        What does he bring to the ticket?

                        One talking head said that the VEEP pick rarely influences elections, though. He may be right.

                        ETA: Shapiro, from what I understand, is fairly popular in Pennsylvania. More so than Walz in Minnesota.

                        And what in the world is this shit?

                        https://www.startribune.com/want-to-know-more-about-tim-walz-try-making-his-hot-dish-recipe/600680906

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:32 last edited by
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                        @George-K said in It's Walz:

                        What does he bring to the ticket?

                        A DWI while speeding...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          6 Aug 2024, 18:02

                          @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                          Looks like scenes from the Trump administration to me.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:53 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                          Looks like scenes from the Trump administration to me.

                          Yeah and who set the fires in Portland in DC?

                          Which you may counter with Jan 6 nonsense.

                          My point is it's ridiculous at this point to attribute the nation's growing radicalism to Trump. We've been marching farther down this road for over a decade.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:54 last edited by jon-nyc 8 Jun 2024, 19:55
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                            It’s just, well, weird to warn of the dark days of 2020 if we don’t elect Trump. We had Trump and that happened.

                            Later we had Biden and Harris and it didn’t happen (yet - maybe in Chicago in two weeks).

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • L LuFins Dad
                              6 Aug 2024, 18:14

                              @Renauda said in It's Walz:

                              I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

                              This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

                              Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 19:59 last edited by
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                              @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                              @Renauda said in It's Walz:

                              I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

                              This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

                              Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.

                              Ah yes, Michigan. I had forgotten. Will have to wait and see how it all unfolds. Right now we’re seeing no time being be lost on the deployment of SwIftboats. Am sure that with Walz’s past drunk driving charge the spectre of a Chappaquidick or some such will also emerge. Am sure there’s dirt from his years as a teacher and football coach that will also be dug or dredged up.

                              A whole new series of Dallas is about to be aired.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                6 Aug 2024, 19:54

                                It’s just, well, weird to warn of the dark days of 2020 if we don’t elect Trump. We had Trump and that happened.

                                Later we had Biden and Harris and it didn’t happen (yet - maybe in Chicago in two weeks).

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:00 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                                It’s just, well, weird to warn of the dark days of 2020 if we don’t elect Trump. We had Trump and that happened.

                                Agree, weird argument.

                                Later we had Biden and Harris and it didn’t happen (yet - maybe in Chicago in two weeks).

                                Because the nutters, the Portland contingent of which, turned their city into fucking Gangland, thought they won the election, not because of anything constructive Biden or Kamala did. It's all bottom-up, not top-down.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:01 last edited by
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                                  You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • R Renauda
                                    6 Aug 2024, 19:59

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                                    @Renauda said in It's Walz:

                                    I don’t think he is the right choice for the ticket. Shapiro is more moderate and would have pulled the more crucial swing state, Pennsylvania.

                                    This choice will probably cost Harris the election.

                                    Walz will help with Michigan, but I generally think that you are correct.

                                    Ah yes, Michigan. I had forgotten. Will have to wait and see how it all unfolds. Right now we’re seeing no time being be lost on the deployment of SwIftboats. Am sure that with Walz’s past drunk driving charge the spectre of a Chappaquidick or some such will also emerge. Am sure there’s dirt from his years as a teacher and football coach that will also be dug or dredged up.

                                    A whole new series of Dallas is about to be aired.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:03 last edited by
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                                    @Renauda said in It's Walz:

                                    A whole new series of Dallas is about to be aired.

                                    At this point my main hope is to wake up like Pam Ewing and realize the last 8 years have all been an awful dream.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:04 last edited by
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                                      I didn't think anyone I knew actually watched that show. Live and learn. 😄

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        6 Aug 2024, 20:01

                                        You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:08 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                                        You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

                                        It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

                                        Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

                                        This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          6 Aug 2024, 20:08

                                          @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                                          You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

                                          It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

                                          Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

                                          This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 6 Aug 2024, 20:37 last edited by
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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in It's Walz:

                                          @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                                          You have forgot the extent to which Trump’s mere presence radicalizes people.

                                          It would fall on deaf ears and he'd be written off as an orange game show host if they hadn't already been simmering for about 5-10 years prior.

                                          Or more accurately, if radicalization wasn't in vogue then Trump would try different levers to pull.

                                          This isn't a politics thing. Anyone who has ever paid attention to the last decade's worth of movies, corporate restructuring, mainstream commercials, government contracting rules, music promotions, public school activities etc. can see that.

                                          There are reasons you are seeing this happen in the UK and elsewhere. The polarization across the west is quite stark.

                                          And @jon-nyc the Floyd riots were only the latest and the worst, particularly bad because of the lockdowns and pandemic stress/fears.

                                          The recent Pro-Palestinian protests in DC we’re as bad as anything we saw during Floyd (in DC), and weren’t as bad as the anti-Trump riots in January 17. But let’s not forget Baltimore 2015, Ferguson in 2014, Trayvon Martin and more.

                                          And it doesn’t have to be about Race. Occupy Wall Street wasn’t as violent, but set the stage for a lot of what’s come since.

                                          The Brad

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