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Ceding the Working Class

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @George-K said in Ceding the Working Class:

    In the meantime, why are Democrat Muslims afraid to say "Under God?" Are they afraid of the language ("Allah" vs "God")?

    Are they ashamed?

    I'd really like to know.

    Please let me know your thoughts, and...of course. thanks in advance.

    I have two pieces of advice and one suggestion for you:

    1. Do not generalize one video showing "one Democrat Muslim" saying the Pledge of Allegiance one way and think that "all Democrat Muslims" would also say it the same way.

    2. Do not assume that the omission is due to fear or shame. At this point, it does not look like you have enough information to make either inference.

    3. Consider talking to Democrat Muslims you know and see what they have to say about this.

    You are welcome.

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    @Axtremus said in Ceding the Working Class:

    Do not generalize one video showing "one Democrat Muslim" saying the Pledge of Allegiance one way and think that "all Democrat Muslims" would also say it the same way.

    I didn't say that. I simply reported that the Muslim subcommittee decided to not include "under God" in their interpretation of the Pledge of Allegiance.

    If there is a reason that I'm missing, I'd love to hear your speculation as to why that is.

    Is it shame?
    Is it fear?
    Is it something else?
    They're not atheists are they?
    Are they so non-inclusive that "God" is not to be used but "Allah" is? If they had said "One nation, under Allah" would they have done it?

    Just spitballing questions as to why they decided to omit it.

    As I said, I'd love to hear your opinion as to why they did that.

    On a related note, I would think that the DNC would be more inclusive with respect to diversity. After all, some prominent groups decided to not include their variation of the pledge, and yet, the DNC didn't broadcast that version.

    Why do you think that is? Could it be they were ashamed? Could it be because they didn't want to offend anyone? I don't know; I'd love to hear your thoughts.

    Again, thanks in advance.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • LarryL Larry

      @Axtremus said in Ceding the Working Class:

      @George-K said in Ceding the Working Class:

      In the meantime, why are Democrat Muslims afraid to say "Under God?" Are they afraid of the language ("Allah" vs "God")?

      Are they ashamed?

      I'd really like to know.

      Please let me know your thoughts, and...of course. thanks in advance.

      I have two pieces of advice and one suggestion for you:

      1. Do not generalize one video showing "one Democrat Muslim" saying the Pledge of Allegiance one way and think that "all Democrat Muslims" would also say it the same way.

      2. Do not assume that the omission is due to fear or shame. At this point, it does not look like you have enough information to make either inference.

      3. Consider talking to Democrat Muslims you know and see what they have to say about this.

      You are welcome.

      The democrats have been trying to eliminate all mention of God for years, you fucking fool.

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      Axtremus
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      @Larry said in Ceding the Working Class:

      The democrats have been trying to eliminate all mention of God for years

      This is obviously false. There are no lack of Democrats still mentioning God today.

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      • George KG George K

        @Axtremus said in Ceding the Working Class:

        Do not generalize one video showing "one Democrat Muslim" saying the Pledge of Allegiance one way and think that "all Democrat Muslims" would also say it the same way.

        I didn't say that. I simply reported that the Muslim subcommittee decided to not include "under God" in their interpretation of the Pledge of Allegiance.

        If there is a reason that I'm missing, I'd love to hear your speculation as to why that is.

        Is it shame?
        Is it fear?
        Is it something else?
        They're not atheists are they?
        Are they so non-inclusive that "God" is not to be used but "Allah" is? If they had said "One nation, under Allah" would they have done it?

        Just spitballing questions as to why they decided to omit it.

        As I said, I'd love to hear your opinion as to why they did that.

        On a related note, I would think that the DNC would be more inclusive with respect to diversity. After all, some prominent groups decided to not include their variation of the pledge, and yet, the DNC didn't broadcast that version.

        Why do you think that is? Could it be they were ashamed? Could it be because they didn't want to offend anyone? I don't know; I'd love to hear your thoughts.

        Again, thanks in advance.

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        Axtremus
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        @George-K said in Ceding the Working Class:

        As I said, I'd love to hear your opinion as to why they did that.

        I have no opinion on why they did that.
        I have no problem with it.

        Again, thanks in advance.

        You are welcome.

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          Larry
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          You have to be the dumbest human I've ever seen.

          It is a well known fact that democrats have tried to eliminate all mention of God from public discourse. You yourself have weighed in on the subject in the past. Just because on occasion you see some democrat politician mention God does not negate the fact that the democrats, including you, mock and make fun of God and people of faith, and have worked diligently for YEARS trying to eliminate all mention of God. For you to now turn around and claim they haven't is pure hypocrisy.

          Democrats want to kill babies, eliminate God,.... your party is an evil, vile ideology with absolutely no values and no principles. You're a bunch of morons.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @Larry said in Ceding the Working Class:

            Link to video

            Thank you for the YouTube link. I am glad to see this. Here I will also address @George-K.

            This is good. The publication of these videos, contrary to @George-K's assertion, shows that the Democrats are not afraid to reflect and publish different opinions.

            @Larry, let me know if you think there are Republicans who, when they say the Pledge of Allegiance, will omit the "under God" part.

            And @George-K, let me know if you think the Republicans will publish videos of committee meetings where in some Republicans say the Pledge of Allegiance without the "under God" part.

            Frankly I am quite glad that there is a major political party in the USA that still has a tent big enough to include atheists, pantheists, polytheists, etc. As the technology people say sometimes, this is a feature, not a bug.

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            @Axtremus said in Ceding the Working Class:

            @Larry said in Ceding the Working Class:

            Link to video

            Thank you for the YouTube link. I am glad to see this. Here I will also address @George-K.

            This is good. The publication of these videos, contrary to @George-K's assertion, shows that the Democrats are not afraid to reflect and publish different opinions.

            @Larry, let me know if you think there are Republicans who, when they say the Pledge of Allegiance, will omit the "under God" part.

            And @George-K, let me know if you think the Republicans will publish videos of committee meetings where in some Republicans say the Pledge of Allegiance without the "under God" part.

            Frankly I am quite glad that there is a major political party in the USA that still has a tent big enough to include atheists, pantheists, polytheists, etc. As the technology people say sometimes, this is a feature, not a bug.

            Turned on a dime and gave four cents change.

            Impressive!😄

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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