A Revolution in Sensibility
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 12:27 last edited by
I think he has a couple of decent points...
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 12:31 last edited by
For many Americans, the enemy is the conservative patrimony of individual agency, traditional marriage, competitive achievement, historical memory, freedom of thought, expression and peaceful assembly, and the morality of public reciprocity. The handshake has been replaced by the clenched fist, a communist salute and emblem adopted by BLM. The virus of collectivism has taken hold among the young, and equality of personal opportunity has yielded to equality of forced outcome.
"For many"
I think it is probably a small group
But somebody has done a very good job of blowing it all out of proportion
They have sold the proposition that at least half of Americans hate America
Nice selling
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 14:22 last edited by
With the exception of the STEM disciplines, Medical faculties and Business Administration, federal funding of the universities must be suspended.
He rants for 5 paragraphs about the erosion of culture and then, first and foremost, declares full suspension on the teaching of culture. Hilarious.
Liberal arts are doing a disservice to students because they've been taken over by Judith Butler types, not because liberal arts are worthless.
You can't cite John Milton, John Locke, Edmund Burke, Matthew Arnold, John Stuart Mill and Benjamin Disraeli and then directly proceed to suggest they no longer be taught.
Putz.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 14:39 last edited by
Maybe that's a great observation when I went to school, but it's no longer valid. Those liberal arts courses have been overrun with politics on most college campuses. And as stated, most of the hyphenated study classes are worthless.
Besides, who says the STEM graduate cannot take a robust slate of courses outside of their technological courses? I'm no brainiac, yet with over 100 hours of STEM courses, I still took a dozen hours of English and Lit (not that it shows
), a dozen hours of religion and philosophy and a few other sundry courses.There is no reason a college education should cost what it does. Perhaps a financial starvation diet or at least intermittent fasting for superfluous programs would be beneficial.
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Maybe that's a great observation when I went to school, but it's no longer valid. Those liberal arts courses have been overrun with politics on most college campuses. And as stated, most of the hyphenated study classes are worthless.
Besides, who says the STEM graduate cannot take a robust slate of courses outside of their technological courses? I'm no brainiac, yet with over 100 hours of STEM courses, I still took a dozen hours of English and Lit (not that it shows
), a dozen hours of religion and philosophy and a few other sundry courses.There is no reason a college education should cost what it does. Perhaps a financial starvation diet or at least intermittent fasting for superfluous programs would be beneficial.
wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 15:53 last edited by@Jolly said in A Revolution in Sensibility:
Maybe that's a great observation when I went to school, but it's no longer valid. Those liberal arts courses have been overrun with politics on most college campuses. And as stated, most of the hyphenated study classes are worthless.
What I said was:
Liberal arts are doing a disservice to students because they've been taken over by Judith Butler types, not because liberal arts are worthless.
Reform the liberal arts. By all means, do a complete overhaul. But you'd be an absolute fool to go all-in on STEM and leave the liberal arts by the wayside.
Think anyone's read any books during lockdown? Has anyone thought that maybe Netflix was a good way to pass the time? Do you think piano sales are up, or down right now? Now go ahead and try to convince me that liberal arts are actually worthless.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 16:04 last edited by
There are lots of things that people appreciate as having value, that might verge on worthless as an academic study for your typical 18-20 year old.
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There are lots of things that people appreciate as having value, that might verge on worthless as an academic study for your typical 18-20 year old.
wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 16:05 last edited by@Horace said in A Revolution in Sensibility:
that might verge on worthless as an academic study for your typical 18-20 year old.
Big false assumption there.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 16:07 last edited by
Which is?
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 16:09 last edited by
It's not worthless. Not even close. But it's one of those things where we're never going to convince each other of anything, so might as well move on to something else.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 16:27 last edited by
We all have skin in the game when it comes to a society deciding what is and is not necessary to begin an economically viable adult life. It's an important question and not a strictly personal preference one, whether that stuff has value for your typical 18-20 year old.