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Politics is downstream from…

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    Agriculture?

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      And just who are these farmers and what scale are they farming?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        And just who are these farmers and what scale are they farming?

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        @Jolly said in Politics is downstream from…:

        And just who are these farmers and what scale are they farming?

        https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-44770-w

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Thank you.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            First thought...There are too many drones in the world. Highly educated drones, producing nothing.

            These folks are comparing a labor intensive crop planted (most likely in this case, although they do use 20hp or so small tractors in Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand)) and harvested by hand, with row crops (they included corn potatoes, and darn near everything but rice) that even on small farms use four row equipment.

            Shock, shock! Twenty people working together in a rice paddy in a communist society are more collectivistic than a guy plowing a field on a tractor, in the same society.

            Wowzers.

            Tell them to come down here and talk to some of the best farmers in the world. I know several guys who farm rice/crawfish and/or row crop. Farmers will help each other out, especially if one is sick and it's time to plant or harvest. But collectivism?

            Nah.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              jon-nyc
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              #6

              Collectivism isn’t a binary variable.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                First thought...There are too many drones in the world. Highly educated drones, producing nothing.

                These folks are comparing a labor intensive crop planted (most likely in this case, although they do use 20hp or so small tractors in Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand)) and harvested by hand, with row crops (they included corn potatoes, and darn near everything but rice) that even on small farms use four row equipment.

                Shock, shock! Twenty people working together in a rice paddy in a communist society are more collectivistic than a guy plowing a field on a tractor, in the same society.

                Wowzers.

                Tell them to come down here and talk to some of the best farmers in the world. I know several guys who farm rice/crawfish and/or row crop. Farmers will help each other out, especially if one is sick and it's time to plant or harvest. But collectivism?

                Nah.

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                @Jolly said in Politics is downstream from…:

                Shock, shock! Twenty people working together in a rice paddy in a communist society are more collectivistic than a guy plowing a field on a tractor, in the same society.

                Wowzers.

                I was going to suggest something like that, but you already said it.

                Please love yourself.

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                  Causation or correlation?

                  Are assembly line workers more collectivist than solo artists?

                  (Will we create even more collectivists by “bringing back manufacturing”?)

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    Causation or correlation?

                    Are assembly line workers more collectivist than solo artists?

                    (Will we create even more collectivists by “bringing back manufacturing”?)

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                    @Axtremus said in Politics is downstream from…:

                    Causation or correlation?

                    Are assembly line workers more collectivist than solo artists?

                    (Will we create even more collectivists by “bringing back manufacturing”?)

                    Does it matter?

                    Show me the results. If you've ever managed people in more than one business or even a branch office of the same business, you'll find everything from highly variable cultures to slightly variable cultures, depending on location and the personalities of the people working there.

                    I'm more concerned with the practical applications. As a manager, how fast can I size up the differences, rearranging people and resources to produce the best product as economically and efficiently as possible?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Yup, @Jolly makes perfect sense.

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