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  • George KG Offline
    George KG Offline
    George K
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    #34

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      #35

      Bongino said right after the assassination attempt, that his sources in the department told him they had to borrow agents from other agencies.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Bongino said right after the assassination attempt, that his sources in the department told him they had to borrow agents from other agencies.

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #36

        @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

        Bongino said right after the assassination attempt, that his sources in the department told him they had to borrow agents from other agencies.

        I would guess that desk-riders are pretty much interchangeable.

        Field agents, not so much.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

          Bongino said right after the assassination attempt, that his sources in the department told him they had to borrow agents from other agencies.

          I would guess that desk-riders are pretty much interchangeable.

          Field agents, not so much.

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #37

          @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

          @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

          Bongino said right after the assassination attempt, that his sources in the department told him they had to borrow agents from other agencies.

          I would guess that desk-riders are pretty much interchangeable.

          Field agents, not so much.

          No, these are going to be guys with guns. But there are guys with guns and then there is the Secret Service.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

            @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

            Bongino said right after the assassination attempt, that his sources in the department told him they had to borrow agents from other agencies.

            I would guess that desk-riders are pretty much interchangeable.

            Field agents, not so much.

            No, these are going to be guys with guns. But there are guys with guns and then there is the Secret Service.

            CopperC Offline
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            Copper
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            #38

            @Jolly said in Secret Service under fire:

            there are guys with guns and then there is the Secret Service.

            Like Jim West and Artemus Gordon, for example.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #39

              Rumor:

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #40

                Sean Davis:


                If you are a member of Congress preparing for the Secret Service hearing on Monday, do us all a favor and ask short, specific, factual questions. We don’t need you wasting time with stupid speeches or dumb questions the regime will filibuster.

                Here’s a list for you.

                Here’s an abbreviated list of extremely basic factual questions about the Trump assassination attempt that for some reason haven’t been definitively answered (anonymous leaks don’t count):

                1. What make, model, and caliber of firearm was used, and when/where/by whom was it purchased?

                2. What make and model of ammo was used (including the weight of the bullet used)?

                3. Did the rifle used have any type of magnified optic or red dot sight on it, and if so, what make/model, and what exact setting was the optic on when the shooter used it?

                4. Have authorities put identical rounds through the rifle with the identical optics settings and confirmed both the zero and the result of shots fired at the range at which they were fired on Saturday?

                5. How many shell casings were recovered from the crime scene? How many remaining rounds were in the magazine that was found in the rifle?

                6. How many rounds were fired by the shooter on the warehouse rooftop? Has each round been accounted for (i.e., do investigators know where each round landed, and does the number of bullets found or accounted for match the number of shell casings found?

                7. Have investigators confirmed, via the recovered bullets and the known trajectory of the bullets, that the shooter on the rooftop fired each one?

                8. Have investigators reconstructed the shooter’s precise movements over the past days, weeks, and months? If so, have they put together a list of every person with whom he interacted over that time period, but in person and virtually or online?

                9. Have investigators reviewed video surveillance of the shooter at all various locations he recently visited (e.g., gun range, gun dealer, restaurants, traffic cameras, etc.)? If so, have they canvassed and interviewed each person seen with the shooter?

                These aren’t difficult questions to answer. These are usually the types of details promptly provided by authorities in the days following shocking, violent events of national importance.

                Yet we do not have a single one of these questions definitely answered on the record by an official authority. Not one.

                Why the heck not?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                • George KG George K

                  Sean Davis:


                  If you are a member of Congress preparing for the Secret Service hearing on Monday, do us all a favor and ask short, specific, factual questions. We don’t need you wasting time with stupid speeches or dumb questions the regime will filibuster.

                  Here’s a list for you.

                  Here’s an abbreviated list of extremely basic factual questions about the Trump assassination attempt that for some reason haven’t been definitively answered (anonymous leaks don’t count):

                  1. What make, model, and caliber of firearm was used, and when/where/by whom was it purchased?

                  2. What make and model of ammo was used (including the weight of the bullet used)?

                  3. Did the rifle used have any type of magnified optic or red dot sight on it, and if so, what make/model, and what exact setting was the optic on when the shooter used it?

                  4. Have authorities put identical rounds through the rifle with the identical optics settings and confirmed both the zero and the result of shots fired at the range at which they were fired on Saturday?

                  5. How many shell casings were recovered from the crime scene? How many remaining rounds were in the magazine that was found in the rifle?

                  6. How many rounds were fired by the shooter on the warehouse rooftop? Has each round been accounted for (i.e., do investigators know where each round landed, and does the number of bullets found or accounted for match the number of shell casings found?

                  7. Have investigators confirmed, via the recovered bullets and the known trajectory of the bullets, that the shooter on the rooftop fired each one?

                  8. Have investigators reconstructed the shooter’s precise movements over the past days, weeks, and months? If so, have they put together a list of every person with whom he interacted over that time period, but in person and virtually or online?

                  9. Have investigators reviewed video surveillance of the shooter at all various locations he recently visited (e.g., gun range, gun dealer, restaurants, traffic cameras, etc.)? If so, have they canvassed and interviewed each person seen with the shooter?

                  These aren’t difficult questions to answer. These are usually the types of details promptly provided by authorities in the days following shocking, violent events of national importance.

                  Yet we do not have a single one of these questions definitely answered on the record by an official authority. Not one.

                  Why the heck not?

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #41

                  @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

                  Sean Davis:


                  If you are a member of Congress preparing for the Secret Service hearing on Monday, do us all a favor and ask short, specific, factual questions. We don’t need you wasting time with stupid speeches or dumb questions the regime will filibuster.

                  Here’s a list for you.

                  Here’s an abbreviated list of extremely basic factual questions about the Trump assassination attempt that for some reason haven’t been definitively answered (anonymous leaks don’t count):

                  1. What make, model, and caliber of firearm was used, and when/where/by whom was it purchased?

                  2. What make and model of ammo was used (including the weight of the bullet used)?

                  3. Did the rifle used have any type of magnified optic or red dot sight on it, and if so, what make/model, and what exact setting was the optic on when the shooter used it?

                  4. Have authorities put identical rounds through the rifle with the identical optics settings and confirmed both the zero and the result of shots fired at the range at which they were fired on Saturday?

                  5. How many shell casings were recovered from the crime scene? How many remaining rounds were in the magazine that was found in the rifle?

                  6. How many rounds were fired by the shooter on the warehouse rooftop? Has each round been accounted for (i.e., do investigators know where each round landed, and does the number of bullets found or accounted for match the number of shell casings found?

                  7. Have investigators confirmed, via the recovered bullets and the known trajectory of the bullets, that the shooter on the rooftop fired each one?

                  8. Have investigators reconstructed the shooter’s precise movements over the past days, weeks, and months? If so, have they put together a list of every person with whom he interacted over that time period, but in person and virtually or online?

                  9. Have investigators reviewed video surveillance of the shooter at all various locations he recently visited (e.g., gun range, gun dealer, restaurants, traffic cameras, etc.)? If so, have they canvassed and interviewed each person seen with the shooter?

                  These aren’t difficult questions to answer. These are usually the types of details promptly provided by authorities in the days following shocking, violent events of national importance.

                  Yet we do not have a single one of these questions definitely answered on the record by an official authority. Not one.

                  Why the heck not?

                  Except that is not what tomorrow’s meeting/hearing is about.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

                    Sean Davis:


                    If you are a member of Congress preparing for the Secret Service hearing on Monday, do us all a favor and ask short, specific, factual questions. We don’t need you wasting time with stupid speeches or dumb questions the regime will filibuster.

                    Here’s a list for you.

                    Here’s an abbreviated list of extremely basic factual questions about the Trump assassination attempt that for some reason haven’t been definitively answered (anonymous leaks don’t count):

                    1. What make, model, and caliber of firearm was used, and when/where/by whom was it purchased?

                    2. What make and model of ammo was used (including the weight of the bullet used)?

                    3. Did the rifle used have any type of magnified optic or red dot sight on it, and if so, what make/model, and what exact setting was the optic on when the shooter used it?

                    4. Have authorities put identical rounds through the rifle with the identical optics settings and confirmed both the zero and the result of shots fired at the range at which they were fired on Saturday?

                    5. How many shell casings were recovered from the crime scene? How many remaining rounds were in the magazine that was found in the rifle?

                    6. How many rounds were fired by the shooter on the warehouse rooftop? Has each round been accounted for (i.e., do investigators know where each round landed, and does the number of bullets found or accounted for match the number of shell casings found?

                    7. Have investigators confirmed, via the recovered bullets and the known trajectory of the bullets, that the shooter on the rooftop fired each one?

                    8. Have investigators reconstructed the shooter’s precise movements over the past days, weeks, and months? If so, have they put together a list of every person with whom he interacted over that time period, but in person and virtually or online?

                    9. Have investigators reviewed video surveillance of the shooter at all various locations he recently visited (e.g., gun range, gun dealer, restaurants, traffic cameras, etc.)? If so, have they canvassed and interviewed each person seen with the shooter?

                    These aren’t difficult questions to answer. These are usually the types of details promptly provided by authorities in the days following shocking, violent events of national importance.

                    Yet we do not have a single one of these questions definitely answered on the record by an official authority. Not one.

                    Why the heck not?

                    Except that is not what tomorrow’s meeting/hearing is about.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #42

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Secret Service under fire:

                    Except that is not what tomorrow’s meeting/hearing is about.

                    You expect them to stay on topic, LOL?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #43

                      Oh, I’m sure that they will go afield, but the meeting was scheduled due to a petition by senior agents weeks before the Trump shooting asking for an investigation regarding horrendous new training, hiring, and assignments. They point to an incident where Kamala was driven past a live bomb, and one of her female agents assaulting a superior, then displaying bizarre behavior and still maintaining her position.

                      I think you keep it focused on areas already alleged by senior agents and investigate how that may have impacted Butler.

                      Leave the hearing regarding manufacturer, bullet size/ballistics for another day/director.

                      The Brad

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                        #44

                        That list of questions seems to be designed to further and/or debunk conspiracy theories. The hearing is about USSS incompetence.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          That list of questions seems to be designed to further and/or debunk conspiracy theories. The hearing is about USSS incompetence.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @jon-nyc said in Secret Service under fire:

                          That list of questions seems to be designed to further and/or debunk conspiracy theories. The hearing is about USSS incompetence.

                          Ayup. That was my additional thought as well.

                          The Brad

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                            That list of questions seems to be designed to aid further and/or debunk conspiracy theories future shooters in their purchases.

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
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                              Looks like the congressional hearing is going ... poorly.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                Looks like the congressional hearing is going ... poorly.

                                LuFins DadL Offline
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                                LuFins Dad
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                                @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

                                Looks like the congressional hearing is going ... poorly.

                                Poorly for her or poorly for everyone…

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

                                  Looks like the congressional hearing is going ... poorly.

                                  Poorly for her or poorly for everyone…

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Secret Service under fire:

                                  @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

                                  Looks like the congressional hearing is going ... poorly.

                                  Poorly for her or poorly for everyone…

                                  Everyone. She's avoiding answering questions, confirming that she's just an apparatchik.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    The opening statement by the GOP senator focused on the SS and its failings, while the opening statement from the Dem senator focused on guns, mass shootings, and authoritarian political violence. He mentioned a "mass shooting" at a club the same night as Trump was shot. The words "gang violence" were not used.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      George K
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                                      Goodness. AOC makes sense?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Strange bedfellows indeed.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          She is so smart.

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