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Give 'em Hell, Condi!

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    Smokin'.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      You know what I like about her?

      She's smart enough, and knows enough, to NOT want to be POTUS.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Problem with schools in the ghetto or poor parts of town, is lack of expectations and parental support.

        I would love to see a study, where we took 1000 volunteers - 500 boys and 500 girls - and placed them on an empty college campus (we've got those you know) with good teachers and military-style discipline.

        Career path them into vocational or prep training by 10th grade with apprenticeships and internships. I'd like to see what we could do...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Problem with schools in the ghetto or poor parts of town, is lack of expectations and parental support.

          I would love to see a study, where we took 1000 volunteers - 500 boys and 500 girls - and placed them on an empty college campus (we've got those you know) with good teachers and military-style discipline.

          Career path them into vocational or prep training by 10th grade with apprenticeships and internships. I'd like to see what we could do...

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          George K
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          @Jolly said in Give 'em Hell, Condi!:

          parental support

          According to D1, that's the #1 issue. Parents don't care.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            @Jolly said in Give 'em Hell, Condi!:

            parental support

            According to D1, that's the #1 issue. Parents don't care.

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            @George-K said in Give 'em Hell, Condi!:

            @Jolly said in Give 'em Hell, Condi!:

            parental support

            According to D1, that's the #1 issue. Parents don't care.

            My daughter taught in poor neighborhoods for 14 years. The number one indicator of student success?

            If two parents showed up for parent-teacher conference.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              I think I’ve mentioned this before but in my first naive steps in the original coffee room at piano forum, there was a sock named Condi, and me, unfamiliar with the wily ways of the internet thought, that’s the real condi, how cool is that, since we all knew she was a pianist. What an idiot I was.

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                What is the context of that statement? Is there some ongoing discussion about school choice? Who is for it and who is against it?

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                  Generally school vouchers (where a student could get a voucher from the state to be used at a private school) is right-coded with opposition being left-coded.

                  Related background issues with partisan valence are (1) public funding for religious schools (one driver behind the desire for vouchers historically) and (2) teachers unions.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • KlausK Klaus

                    What is the context of that statement? Is there some ongoing discussion about school choice? Who is for it and who is against it?

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                    @Klaus, one argument goes that if you give public funds in the form of "vouchers" to individuals to choose their own schools, you can help them "escape" from "bad public schools" to go to "good private schools." But then a counter argument goes that the more public funds you give out in "vouchers," the less remain to fund the public schools, creating a viscous cycle that makes the public schools worse and worse in the process.

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                      As it stands right now, public schools are kinda like the drunk sitting on the floor. When asked why he was sitting on the floor, the drunk slurred, "You can't fall off the floor".

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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