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In Japan - women sue for the right to be sterilized

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  • AxtremusA Away
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/21/world/asia/japan-women-sterilization.html?unlocked_article_code=1.1U0.alj5.XTMUndw7svmf

    In Japan, the "Maternal Protection Act" places stringent restrictions on sterilization procedures -- one must have had children and obtain permission from the spouse before sterilization is allowed.

    A group of women in Japan is suing the government to have the Act overturned, claiming that the Act violates their constitutional right to equality and self-determination.

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      Seems reasonable even if a rather niche demand.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Very reasonable. Obtain permission from spouse? GMAFB.

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          In 1987 , I had to sign with my wife or the GYN would not tie her tubes.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            The state must protect it's interests.

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              In 1987 , I had to sign with my wife or the GYN would not tie her tubes.

              jon-nycJ Online
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              @Jolly said in In Japan - women sue for the right to be sterilized:

              In 1987 , I had to sign with my wife or the GYN would not tie her tubes.

              I figured the doc would just have to glance at you and then say to your wife “Yeah, you don’t want kids with him.” 🤣🤣

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                In 1987 , I had to sign with my wife or the GYN would not tie her tubes.

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                @Jolly said in In Japan - women sue for the right to be sterilized:

                In 1987 , I had to sign with my wife or the GYN would not tie her tubes.

                So if man, other than yourself of course, had wanted a vasectomy in around that time or earlier would his spouse also have had to sign off agreeing to the procedure?

                Elbows up!

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                  Compare and contrast to today in the US where a 12 year old girl says in school “I don’t want to grow boobs, it will make it harder to play softball” so the teacher gets them a chest binder, gives them a recommendation for a doctor that will give her puberty blockers, start calling her Steve, and tell her not to tell her parents, and schedule the hysterectomy when she turns 16z

                  The Brad

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                    Back to the main point of the thread, Tubal Ligations are reversible, no? So I don’t really see the problem. If she later wants to have children she can.

                    The Brad

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                      But the whole “her body, her choice” thing is ultimately extremely dismissal of the very idea of marriage and two becoming one…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        But the whole “her body, her choice” thing is ultimately extremely dismissal of the very idea of marriage and two becoming one…

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in In Japan - women sue for the right to be sterilized:

                        But the whole “her body, her choice” thing is ultimately extremely dismissal of the very idea of marriage and two becoming one…

                        It's really more dismissal of the idea of two becoming three or four.

                        I was only joking

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @Jolly said in In Japan - women sue for the right to be sterilized:

                          In 1987 , I had to sign with my wife or the GYN would not tie her tubes.

                          I figured the doc would just have to glance at you and then say to your wife “Yeah, you don’t want kids with him.” 🤣🤣

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                          @jon-nyc said in In Japan - women sue for the right to be sterilized:

                          @Jolly said in In Japan - women sue for the right to be sterilized:

                          In 1987 , I had to sign with my wife or the GYN would not tie her tubes.

                          I figured the doc would just have to glance at you and then say to your wife “Yeah, you don’t want kids with him.” 🤣🤣

                          I'll have you know I've produced more claimed progeny than you have. 😛😛

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            Back to the main point of the thread, Tubal Ligations are reversible, no? So I don’t really see the problem. If she later wants to have children she can.

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in In Japan - women sue for the right to be sterilized:

                            Back to the main point of the thread, Tubal Ligations are reversible, no? So I don’t really see the problem. If she later wants to have children she can.

                            Yes and no. A good GYN will cut a decent section out, making it more of a chore to reverse.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              But the whole “her body, her choice” thing is ultimately extremely dismissal of the very idea of marriage and two becoming one…

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in In Japan - women sue for the right to be sterilized:

                              But the whole “her body, her choice” thing is ultimately extremely dismissal of the very idea of marriage and two becoming one…

                              Oh, I think we've screwed that one up, seven ways from Sunday.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @jon-nyc said in In Japan - women sue for the right to be sterilized:

                                @Jolly said in In Japan - women sue for the right to be sterilized:

                                In 1987 , I had to sign with my wife or the GYN would not tie her tubes.

                                I figured the doc would just have to glance at you and then say to your wife “Yeah, you don’t want kids with him.” 🤣🤣

                                I'll have you know I've produced more claimed progeny than you have. 😛😛

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                                jon-nyc
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                                @Jolly lol

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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