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I prefer the term Gavinville

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Meanwhile, in Oakland...

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13484975/Video-California-street-houses-wood-shantytown-oakland.html

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Super sad that it has come to that. How do you change teh culture? Even if starting now, it is probably at least a two generation project.

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        You can change it very quickly.

        You criminalize the hard stuff and you incarcerate in an appropriate facility. You beef up mental health with longer PEC, with halfway houses and sadly, more long term beds.

        And you use the cops and vagrancy laws to sweep the bums off of the streets.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Yes, but....... as we have discuss before; higher jail does not equal lower crime.

          But I think the bigger problem is getting staff to fill the increased roles. Money, training, education, etc. for staff. From what I have read, the US corrections (both local, state, and national) do not have enough people right now.

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            You put enough criminals in jail, you lower crime.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              I read an article about a social study that was done among school age children. It was interesting that in high crime/high poverty areas (as well as other locations), kids were given various hypothetical scenes and asked how they would response.

              For example (this is made up by me. Dont remember the actual scenes): What would you do if somebody accidently ran into you and caused you to fall down?

              In the high crime/high poverty areas, the majority response was to respond with violence of some sort. Push the person back, hit them, etc.

              To solve the problem, I think we need to get to the "root". Putting more people in jail is not the solution - maybe a temporary band-aid but long term, it does not work I do not think.

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                Fine.

                First, let's sterilize all females with two children or more.

                Second, let's remove all children less than eight years old and place them in boarding schools. They will be allowed to leave when they graduate from high school or turn 19, whichever is first.

                Third, let's take all children over eight years old up to thirteen years-old and place them in military-run schools. They will be allowed to leave when they graduate from high school or turn 19, whichever is first.

                All children, upon graduating high school or turning 19, will be offered free college or free vocational training.

                See, massive societal retraining...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  I read an article about a social study that was done among school age children. It was interesting that in high crime/high poverty areas (as well as other locations), kids were given various hypothetical scenes and asked how they would response.

                  For example (this is made up by me. Dont remember the actual scenes): What would you do if somebody accidently ran into you and caused you to fall down?

                  In the high crime/high poverty areas, the majority response was to respond with violence of some sort. Push the person back, hit them, etc.

                  To solve the problem, I think we need to get to the "root". Putting more people in jail is not the solution - maybe a temporary band-aid but long term, it does not work I do not think.

                  CopperC Offline
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                  @taiwan_girl said in I prefer the term Gavinville:

                  To solve the problem

                  What problem?

                  People have been violent ever since there have been people.

                  Ignore it, it's none of your business.

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