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Dave, you're driving too fast.

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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
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    Another step toward eliminating free will altogether.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG George K

      If you believe speeding is dangerous, and I have no reason to doubt the stats by the government, why not just lower the speed limit?

      Why? Because of public outrage.

      Everyone will be buying their cars in Nevada and Oregon.

      This is about as boneheaded as Governor Brylcreem's proposed "tax the driver by the mile."

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      @George-K said in Dave, you're driving too fast.:

      This is about as boneheaded as Governor Brylcreem's proposed "tax the driver by the mile."

      Actually, I am not sure that is such a bad thing. With people moving to hybrid, plug in hybrid, and electric cars, the old way of collecting highway taxes is getting less and less.

      Kind of like tollway roads. If you use it, you pay for it. I have no problem with that.

      But tracking driving all the time is kind of creepy.

      If you buy more goods, you pay more tax. Pay by the mile is just a variation of that.

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        @George-K said in Dave, you're driving too fast.:

        This is about as boneheaded as Governor Brylcreem's proposed "tax the driver by the mile."

        Actually, I am not sure that is such a bad thing. With people moving to hybrid, plug in hybrid, and electric cars, the old way of collecting highway taxes is getting less and less.

        Kind of like tollway roads. If you use it, you pay for it. I have no problem with that.

        But tracking driving all the time is kind of creepy.

        If you buy more goods, you pay more tax. Pay by the mile is just a variation of that.

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        George K
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        @taiwan_girl said in Dave, you're driving too fast.:

        Kind of like tollway roads. If you use it, you pay for it. I have no problem with that.

        I have no problem with that either.

        I do have a problem being told that after a period, tolls will be eliminated and the roads will be free.

        https://www.illinoispolicy.org/growth-in-tollway-revenue-shows-illinois-never-planned-on-keeping-its-freeway-promise/

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • CopperC Offline
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          Copper
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          This is a stupid idea.

          Speeding can be used to save lives.

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          • kluursK Offline
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            #10

            I guess it depends on how goofy it gets. The idea that there's a brief - not too intrusive warning when one is over 10+ over the limit could be good - help save lives, avoid speed traps, and save some money. That would be similar to the warning I get when moving over a lane marker. Making it obnoxious or taking away the ability to speed - not such a good idea. Locally, there was a story of a guy who was doing 120+ mph when he t-boned another car, killing the occupant. It won't stop people like him.

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              jon-nyc
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              #11

              It wouldn’t be a bad feature if it were a simple ‘ding’ and only happened once, and if you had to enable it.

              I sometimes speed dramatically without realizing it.

              But government mandate? Nope.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                #12

                They can already use your phone to ding you for speeding. And they are tracking the data.

                The Brad

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                  #13

                  I don’t think that’s widely used or I’d be in jail already.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
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                    #14

                    The maps on CarPlay do a pretty good job of showing the speed limit at your location.

                    In the unlikely event that I care to know the limit I can find it there.

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                      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/jul/05/hard-to-argue-against-mandatory-speed-limiters-come-to-the-eu-and-ni

                      Technology that will be required across Europe from this weekend may change that culture, because from 7 July all new cars sold in the EU and in Northern Ireland must have a range of technical safety features fitted as standard. The most notable of these is intelligent speed assistance – or colloquially, a speed limiter.

                      The rest of the UK is theoretically free, as ministers once liked to put it, to make the most of its post-Brexit freedoms, but the integrated nature of car manufacturing means new vehicles here will also be telling their drivers to take their foot off the accelerator. Combining satnav maps with a forward camera to read the road signs, they will automatically sound an alarm if driven too fast for the zone they are in.

                      and

                      From now on, however, cars will be designed with systems that are impossible to permanently turn off, restarting each time the engine does.

                      and

                      Yousif Al-Ani, the principal engineer for advanced driver assistance systems (ADAS) at Thatcham Research, says: “Modern vehicles are very good at protecting occupants in the event of a collision through passive safety features, such as airbag and crumple zones, but these have limited benefit to vulnerable road users” such as pedestrians and cyclists.

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