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Pistachio and Mags have arrived

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    Our cat was lovely, just the friendliest cat. The vet didn’t warn us what was involved in having her declawed but I came home the day after and she was shaking and quivering, it was terrible. She didn’t seem to suffer any long term issues but that was enough. I’d never do it again.

    I was only joking

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      #13

      Anyway, congratulations LD - they’re exceptionally cute

      I was only joking

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #14

        Speaking of cats...My old barn cat female had kittens awhile back and raised them around the shop. She gets a bit nervous with them (she's not the best mom) so she moved them after a day when I was puttering around inside. Haven't seen the kittens since.

        I guess an owl or a coyote got them. Shame, since one was a pretty grey tuxedo, one was black tuxedo and the other was a yellow tabby.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Jolly
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          #15

          BTW, I said I'd never have a cat in the house. Dogs, but not a cat. Until I sunk $1000 into my best barn cat after something tried to kill him. He's been in the house five years come this fall.

          I've never even considered declawing him.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #16

            Yeah, we’re already scheduled for spay and neutering in September. Trying to ride the line between mostly full grown but before she goes in heat. And no declawing.

            The Brad

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            • George KG George K

              Speaking of cats...

              Some things I don't understand about cats and people.

              Why would anyone (other than a breeder, of course) NOT spay or neuter their cat. I had a female cat in 1976 that went into heat. It was the most God-awful week. Then, we can talk about male spraying.

              Why would anyone let their pet cats go outdoors? My town's FB page usually gets one post per week saying, "My kitty hasn't come home today. If you see..." An outdoor cat will be exposed to predators, diseases, automobiles and all kinds of other stuff. If you love your pet, keep it in the house.

              Don't get me started on de-clawing.

              taiwan_girlT Offline
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              @George-K said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

              Why would anyone let their pet cats go outdoors?

              I think that outdoor cats are the number 1 cause of bird deaths also.

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @George-K said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                Why would anyone let their pet cats go outdoors?

                I think that outdoor cats are the number 1 cause of bird deaths also.

                LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
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                @taiwan_girl said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                @George-K said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                Why would anyone let their pet cats go outdoors?

                I think that outdoor cats are the number 1 cause of bird deaths also.

                That’s a very bad take pushed by bird conservancy groups. The more accurate take is that domestic cats are the #1 directly related to humans cause of death to birds. What that basically means is that more birds die from domestic cats than to kids shooting them with pellet guns. This does not include birds that die from natural predators (orders of magnitude higher), birds that die from flying into wind turbines and buildings (orders of magnitude higher), birds killed by disease, age, etc… in scale, the number of birds killed by domestic cats vs total bird deaths would probably look a lot like the scale of the earth vs the sun. And of those birds killed by domestic cats, 99% are going to be pigeons, starlings, or sparrows as those birds are most often found thriving in urban and suburban areas where you are going to be most likely to find domestic cats. In many areas these birds are not just considered nuisance birds but are even listed as invasive.

                I love birds and we have many bird feeders and several bird houses that we have put up around the neighborhood, but these bird conservancy groups are the proverbial Karen’s on methamphetamines.

                The Brad

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @George-K said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                  Why would anyone let their pet cats go outdoors?

                  I think that outdoor cats are the number 1 cause of bird deaths also.

                  MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
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                  @taiwan_girl said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                  @George-K said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                  Why would anyone let their pet cats go outdoors?

                  I think that outdoor cats are the number 1 cause of bird deaths also.

                  I think that's now wind turbines.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #20

                    Wireless charging… Takes about 1 hour. We use the solar option.

                    IMG_2894.jpeg

                    The Brad

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
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                      #21

                      Nothing like a good sunbeam.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #22

                        Happy cat.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #23

                          Tuckered. Lucas and Finley have kept them going

                          The Brad

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            #24

                            Sunshine for Boris and Maggie

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              taiwan_girl
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                              @LuFins-Dad @George-K Great pics!!!

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @LuFins-Dad @George-K Great pics!!!

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                                George K
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                                #26

                                @taiwan_girl you really don't appreciate the size of Boris (~20 lb) until he's next to Maggie.

                                Maggie has always hissed and snarled at him - ever since we got Boris, she's been "unfriendly" toward him.

                                Interestingly, in the last 6 months or so, she's been more tolerant of him coming "into her space." The other day, they were actually chasing each other around. Maggie was the "chaser."

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #27

                                  @LuFins-Dad ...

                                  What's the plan for the kitties?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @LuFins-Dad ...

                                    What's the plan for the kitties?

                                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                                    @LuFins-Dad ...

                                    What's the plan for the kitties?

                                    Right now we are keeping them confined most of the day in the kitchen. It’s the easiest place to confine them while give them space, sun, and they aren’t big enough to jump on the counters yet. While we have one of those sanitary litter boxes and are keeping them well away from the food prep and cooking areas. We are still being super careful, and mostly cooking outside…

                                    We are allowing them access to the main level (dining room and living room) for 1-2 hours a day or until they appear overwhelmed.

                                    They’ll get more supervised access to the main level over the next couple of weeks and will start introducing them to the basement and upstairs over the next few weeks. The basement includes a utility room, a music studio, a Finley play room/study room, and a small media room/mancave. The cats will not have access to the media room or the utility room. Upstairs we have 2 kids bedrooms, a bathroom, and a master suite. The plan is to keep them from the master suite.

                                    Finley loves them already, picking them up, hugging them and kissing them goodnight and telling them he loves them before bed.

                                    They will be spayed & neutered at 5.5 months. They will be indoor exclusive (though Karla has plans to leash/harness train them). And we will not be declawing them. They have 4 different climbing trees throughout the house, plenty of scratching posts, and we will try to train them about some of the furniture, but it’s cats…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @George-K said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                                      @LuFins-Dad ...

                                      What's the plan for the kitties?

                                      Right now we are keeping them confined most of the day in the kitchen. It’s the easiest place to confine them while give them space, sun, and they aren’t big enough to jump on the counters yet. While we have one of those sanitary litter boxes and are keeping them well away from the food prep and cooking areas. We are still being super careful, and mostly cooking outside…

                                      We are allowing them access to the main level (dining room and living room) for 1-2 hours a day or until they appear overwhelmed.

                                      They’ll get more supervised access to the main level over the next couple of weeks and will start introducing them to the basement and upstairs over the next few weeks. The basement includes a utility room, a music studio, a Finley play room/study room, and a small media room/mancave. The cats will not have access to the media room or the utility room. Upstairs we have 2 kids bedrooms, a bathroom, and a master suite. The plan is to keep them from the master suite.

                                      Finley loves them already, picking them up, hugging them and kissing them goodnight and telling them he loves them before bed.

                                      They will be spayed & neutered at 5.5 months. They will be indoor exclusive (though Karla has plans to leash/harness train them). And we will not be declawing them. They have 4 different climbing trees throughout the house, plenty of scratching posts, and we will try to train them about some of the furniture, but it’s cats…

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                                      George K
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                                      #29

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                                      They will be spayed & neutered at 5.5 months. They will be indoor exclusive (though Karla has plans to leash/harness train them). And we will not be declawing them. They have 4 different climbing trees throughout the house, plenty of scratching posts, and we will try to train them about some of the furniture, but it’s cats…

                                      You're keeping them?

                                      Fabulous!

                                      Our cats have been good about furniture. I got a scratching post for them and used some "scratch-provoking essential oil" stuff on the posts. They used that a lot, and haven't touched the furniture.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                                        They will be spayed & neutered at 5.5 months. They will be indoor exclusive (though Karla has plans to leash/harness train them). And we will not be declawing them. They have 4 different climbing trees throughout the house, plenty of scratching posts, and we will try to train them about some of the furniture, but it’s cats…

                                        You're keeping them?

                                        Fabulous!

                                        Our cats have been good about furniture. I got a scratching post for them and used some "scratch-provoking essential oil" stuff on the posts. They used that a lot, and haven't touched the furniture.

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #30

                                        @George-K said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                                        They will be spayed & neutered at 5.5 months. They will be indoor exclusive (though Karla has plans to leash/harness train them). And we will not be declawing them. They have 4 different climbing trees throughout the house, plenty of scratching posts, and we will try to train them about some of the furniture, but it’s cats…

                                        You're keeping them?

                                        Fabulous!

                                        Our cats have been good about furniture. I got a scratching post for them and used some "scratch-provoking essential oil" stuff on the posts. They used that a lot, and haven't touched the furniture.

                                        Oh, we’re not 100% committed to keeping them. That’s the plan, but I do have a pretty bad allery to cats. When Karla and I first met, she had a cat that I eventually adjusted a little to, but I also did have to use albuterol from time to time for my asthma. It was the first time since high school, frankly.

                                        I’m hoping that if we carefully manage it with a much better hvac filtration system, along with a couple of better room air purifiers that we didn’t have before (though I think the cheap fan and furnace filter will work the best) will make the difference. Especially with them staying out of the bedroom and me having one guaranteed safe man cave to retreat to.

                                        So far there have been a couple of sneezes, and a slight irritation of the eyes, but it’s been manageable without any medical assistance. No runny nose or tearing up yet..

                                        The Brad

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                                          They will be spayed & neutered at 5.5 months. They will be indoor exclusive (though Karla has plans to leash/harness train them). And we will not be declawing them. They have 4 different climbing trees throughout the house, plenty of scratching posts, and we will try to train them about some of the furniture, but it’s cats…

                                          You're keeping them?

                                          Fabulous!

                                          Our cats have been good about furniture. I got a scratching post for them and used some "scratch-provoking essential oil" stuff on the posts. They used that a lot, and haven't touched the furniture.

                                          MikM Away
                                          MikM Away
                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                                          #31

                                          @George-K said in Pistachio and Mags have arrived:

                                          scratch-provoking essential oil

                                          Do tell. I can only find ones to deter.

                                          Luna is just naturally a great cat and NEVER EVER scratches anywhere but the boxes and posts we put out for them. Stella, on the other hand, scratches to get our attention, like a misbehaving toddler. She has now taken to scratching the bottom of the bed when she wants Janet to get up.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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