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  • H Horace
    18 Nov 2024, 18:25

    @Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:

    @Horace said in So sweet:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:

    @Horace said in So sweet:

    Maybe you’re arguing that it’s incoherent to believe a line has been crossed, unless you can define exactly where that line is. I would disagree with that.

    If someone's certain a line has been crossed, but can't explain even roughly what the line is or where it is, then yes, it's incoherent.

    I don't expect people to be able to say, "okay, my line is 48 fatal attacks from 2005 to 2017 and if pit bulls had 47 then I'd not consider them a problem."

    If someone who has a problem with the breed can say something like, "roughly, the rottweiler number I'm okay with but not the pitt bull number" or "roughly speaking I think pitt bulls and rottweilers are both dangerous because they're kind of outliers with fatal attacks," that at least suggests some understanding of their own threshold. But if someone can't articulate at all, even roughly, where that line is for them, but know for a fact pit bulls and only pit bulls crossed it, then the only coherent conclusion to draw is that they hate pit bulls because of t3h fere.

    The distance in the statistics between put bulls and the #2 most dangerous breed, would qualify as a rough idea of where the line is. Somewhere in that gaping chasm between pit bulls and the next most dangerous breed.

    Assuming the person actually knows those statistics, has seen them and not just heard some TikTok about them, and has decided that those are relevant over others, yes.

    Lots of received ideas are based on decent, rational thought, and those ideas catch on and become propagated and received because they're basically coherent. If this one is basically coherent, I'm not going to judge people for not knowing exactly why.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 23:08 last edited by
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    @Horace said in So sweet:

    If this one is basically coherent, I'm not going to judge people for not knowing exactly why.

    Yet that's your MO with the wokes?

    Please love yourself.

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    • A Aqua Letifer
      18 Nov 2024, 23:08

      @Horace said in So sweet:

      If this one is basically coherent, I'm not going to judge people for not knowing exactly why.

      Yet that's your MO with the wokes?

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      Horace
      wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 23:46 last edited by
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      @Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:

      @Horace said in So sweet:

      If this one is basically coherent, I'm not going to judge people for not knowing exactly why.

      Yet that's your MO with the wokes?

      It's my MO for any received idea that happens to be a good idea.

      Education is extremely important.

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        blondie
        wrote on 19 Nov 2024, 05:21 last edited by
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        Lots of pit bulls here in rural AB. Perhaps a preferred breed. That said, and I’m sure I’ve talked of it here before, my kid and I were involved in an altercation with a mastiff when he was 3 yrs old. To this day, I remain scared and avoid most dogs. (To be brief, I avoided the all out mastiff attack by picking my son up with my one arm, holding up and using his tricycle as a shield between us and the dog with my other arm. We retreated me walking backwards a block and a half. I was shaking like a leaf after we got home safe. The dog wasn’t really at fault as he was scared being left alone in a house and broke through a screen window. His owner was charged a hefty fine by Animal Control officers.).

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 17 Dec 2024, 01:35 last edited by
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          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/animal-news/3-dogs-kill-owner-injure-bystander-san-diego-park-rcna184284

          No surprise, but the dogs were pitfall type dogs.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:05 last edited by
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            https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2kg110vxn3o

            An autopsy has confirmed the dog which killed a teenage girl in a fatal attack was an XL Bully.

            Morgan Dorsett, 19, from Shropshire, succumbed to her injuries inside a flat in Cobhorn Drive in the Hartcliffe area of Bristol at about 19:00 GMT on 26 February.

            Avon and Somerset Police confirmed following the incident that the dog had been sedated at the scene and later put down.

            A man and a woman, both in their 20s, have been released on conditional bail they were arrested on suspicion of possession of a prohibited breed of dog.

            They were also arrested on suspicion of possession of being in charge of a dog dangerously out of control causing injury resulting in death.

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              NobodySock
              wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:17 last edited by
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              It's become a no win situation for the breed. There are an abundance of Pits in my area and personally, the ones I have encountered have been some of the sweetest dogs you could imagine. But then I also have direct accounts of unwarranted attacks on people for no overt reason whatsoever. From pits that do not have a history of bad owners training them to be mean. A girl I dated, a nurse practitioner, has a permanent scar on her lip as she was sitting at the kitchen table with friends who owned one and out of nowhere it jumped on her and bit a big chunk of her lip right off. 4 plastic surgeries later it is still painfully obvious to see she had some sort of trauma to her mouth and the owners , who were good friends of hers, are now persona non grata, as they promised to cover all her medical expenses and they didn't contribute a dime in the end.

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                Mik
                wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:41 last edited by Mik 14 days from now
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                A very large percentage of dogs available for rescue adoption here are pits or crosses. I would never take one I hadn’t raised from birth.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 16:03 last edited by
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                  Walking, barking, ruinous lawsuits. No thank you.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 21:06 last edited by
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                    Just sterilize the breed already. Any dog can have a bad day, but when these dogs have a bad day, it can go very bad, very quickly.

                    The Brad

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 13:25 last edited by
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                      They are bred to be what they are and can be made by their owners to be even more aggressive.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 13:30 last edited by
                        #44

                        So then sterilize the owners too.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                          7 Mar 2025, 13:30

                          So then sterilize the owners too.

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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 17:25 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc 😂 😂 Win - win

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                            NobodySock
                            wrote on 9 Mar 2025, 03:05 last edited by
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                            Kind of surprised we don't do that to convicted rapists and pedofiles. Stop the possibilty of repeat offending.

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