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Not fond of Pit Bulls... Don’t trust them whatsoever.
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Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.
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@LuFins-Dad said in So sweet:
Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.
To be doubly sure, maybe do the same to the owners.
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@LuFins-Dad said in So sweet:
Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.
I remember the graph you shared illustrating the danger of the breed. Where's the line, though? Is it just pit bulls? Get rid of them and all's fine?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in So sweet:
@LuFins-Dad said in So sweet:
Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.
To be doubly sure, maybe do the same to the owners.
Get ready to castrate a lot of black guys. That's who primarily owns the breed down here.
Sanger would smile...
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@Doctor-Phibes said in So sweet:
@LuFins-Dad said in So sweet:
Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.
To be doubly sure, maybe do the same to the owners.
Get ready to castrate a lot of black guys. That's who primarily owns the breed down here.
Sanger would smile...
In the UK the stereotypical pit-bull owner is a skin-head type low-life.
When we adopted our first rescue dog here, we went to a meet-and-greet place where all the rescues were. About 2/3 of them were pit-bulls. As friendly and happy to see us as they were, I'd never risk adopting one. I found it really very sad.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:
I remember the graph you shared illustrating the danger of the breed. Where's the line, though? Is it just pit bulls? Get rid of them and all's fine?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George Eek!
There was a recent video about a pitbull attacking a police horse in London and biting its leg pretty severely. Afterward, the owner was like, "it is such a nice dog". etc.
If I see a pitbull, I always make sure to move far away
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@Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:
I remember the graph you shared illustrating the danger of the breed. Where's the line, though? Is it just pit bulls? Get rid of them and all's fine?
Yep, that's the one, thanks.
So what's the acceptable number? And is it fatalities we should be worried about, or injuries? Regarding either, do we care about how the dogs were raised prior to the attack, or are we going to assume that it's the breed itself that's dangerous?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:
re we going to assume that it's the breed itself that's dangerous?
I'm profoundly ignorant when it comes to dog breeds.
However, my ignorance has never stopped me from opining.
Border collies have very different behavioral traits from Shelties, from Poodles.
I think it's fair to say that various dog breeds have developed because of selective breeding for various traits. The fact that pit bulls have more than 10X the fatal attacks in the US than German Shepherds and 40 times more likely than a Doberman says something about the breed.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:
re we going to assume that it's the breed itself that's dangerous?
I'm profoundly ignorant when it comes to dog breeds.
However, my ignorance has never stopped me from opining.
Border collies have very different behavioral traits from Shelties, from Poodles.
I think it's fair to say that various dog breeds have developed because of selective breeding for various traits. The fact that pit bulls have more than 10X the fatal attacks in the US than German Shepherds and 40 times more likely than a Doberman says something about the breed.
Right, and I'm on board with that. But when we (social "we") start discussing the relative safety of dog breeds, all I hear is "Pitties bad." Why? Because Pitties bad. Where should the line be? Pitties bad.
Seems a crap answer to me. Should be, "Pitt bulls are bad because here's the threshold I'm comfortable with, this number right here. Here's why this number is most important to me. And so here's the number associated with Pitt bulls. This is why I have a problem with this breed and only this breed. If other breeds crossed this threshold, I'd have a problem with them, too. If Pitt bulls stopped crossing this threshold, I'd no longer have a problem with them."
That seems far more reasonable to me but I don't really hear that.
For me, attacks are more important than fatal attacks because if my kid loses an eye from one, I'm not going to say, "well it wasn't fatal so it's not a matter of grave concern."
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Well, I’m not going to make you any happier. Whether Pitbulls are more or less likely to attack than other dogs raised in similar circumstances is not adequately determined.
But here’s the thing, any dog can have a bad moment, even the best trained and most well behaved breeds. They are animals, after all. Per capita, I believe labs have the highest number of incidents. The difference is scope. A lab having his worst day may bite somebody. A pit having a bad day.. That’s a very bad day. -
Education is extremely important.
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If there's a huge gap between pits and other breeds in the statistics, then there's plenty of room to draw a line between them.
Okay then what it is it for you? Do you look only at fatal attacks or attacks more generally? And what would be your comfortable threshold?
I'm not making a point about asking those, I'm genuinely curious. (Pretty much the only point I'm making is that it's been difficult to find others who are willing to articulate this.)
Please love yourself.
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@Aqua-Letifer I don’t think there’s any value in codifying statistical thresholds and all that. After you notice pitbulls are outliers in the statistics, you name them in whatever controlling legislation. You never have to draw any lines other than the line around pit bulls. Of course in theory a line was crossed by pit bulls at some point, but you never need to be specific about where that line is. Maybe you’re arguing that it’s incoherent to believe a line has been crossed, unless you can define exactly where that line is. I would disagree with that.
Education is extremely important.
