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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 22:21 last edited by
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    https://www.instagram.com/p/CEAZMMzAnjj/?fbclid=IwAR3LeVSyuAOFEZ_5PcsPLvEyoEDtAPizZy-0lM29TA6e-hC8lTfJUrbEExI

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      George K
      wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 22:26 last edited by
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      (Cheap) Scotch all over the keyboard....

      This should be in the "dark humor" thread!

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Mik
        wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 22:27 last edited by
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        I was about to ask who you were really and what you did with Jon.

        I'm ok now.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 18 Aug 2020, 00:58 last edited by
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          Not fond of Pit Bulls... Don’t trust them whatsoever.

          The Brad

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 21 Aug 2020, 05:01 last edited by
            #5

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Horace
              wrote on 21 Aug 2020, 05:05 last edited by
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              Our Malamute chases birds like that. He has killed chickens before, back in China. For some reason birds are the only animals that activate him like that. He ignores every other critter.

              Education is extremely important.

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                18 Aug 2020, 00:58

                Not fond of Pit Bulls... Don’t trust them whatsoever.

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                George K
                wrote on 17 Nov 2024, 01:35 last edited by
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                @LuFins-Dad said in So sweet:

                Not fond of Pit Bulls... Don’t trust them whatsoever.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 17 Nov 2024, 03:08 last edited by
                  #8

                  Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.

                  The Brad

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                    17 Nov 2024, 03:08

                    Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 17 Nov 2024, 03:42 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in So sweet:

                    Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.

                    To be doubly sure, maybe do the same to the owners.

                    I was only joking

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      17 Nov 2024, 03:08

                      Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 17 Nov 2024, 05:06 last edited by
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in So sweet:

                      Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.

                      I remember the graph you shared illustrating the danger of the breed. Where's the line, though? Is it just pit bulls? Get rid of them and all's fine?

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        17 Nov 2024, 03:42

                        @LuFins-Dad said in So sweet:

                        Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.

                        To be doubly sure, maybe do the same to the owners.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 17 Nov 2024, 12:37 last edited by
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in So sweet:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in So sweet:

                        Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.

                        To be doubly sure, maybe do the same to the owners.

                        Get ready to castrate a lot of black guys. That's who primarily owns the breed down here.

                        Sanger would smile...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J Jolly
                          17 Nov 2024, 12:37

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in So sweet:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in So sweet:

                          Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.

                          To be doubly sure, maybe do the same to the owners.

                          Get ready to castrate a lot of black guys. That's who primarily owns the breed down here.

                          Sanger would smile...

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 00:27 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                          #12

                          @Jolly said in So sweet:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in So sweet:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in So sweet:

                          Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.

                          To be doubly sure, maybe do the same to the owners.

                          Get ready to castrate a lot of black guys. That's who primarily owns the breed down here.

                          Sanger would smile...

                          In the UK the stereotypical pit-bull owner is a skin-head type low-life.

                          When we adopted our first rescue dog here, we went to a meet-and-greet place where all the rescues were. About 2/3 of them were pit-bulls. As friendly and happy to see us as they were, I'd never risk adopting one. I found it really very sad.

                          I was only joking

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                            17 Nov 2024, 05:06

                            @LuFins-Dad said in So sweet:

                            Every Pit Breed needs castrated. Breed them out of existence.

                            I remember the graph you shared illustrating the danger of the breed. Where's the line, though? Is it just pit bulls? Get rid of them and all's fine?

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                            George K
                            wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 02:04 last edited by
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:

                            I remember the graph you shared illustrating the danger of the breed. Where's the line, though? Is it just pit bulls? Get rid of them and all's fine?

                            image.jpeg

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 02:26 last edited by
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                              @George Eek!

                              There was a recent video about a pitbull attacking a police horse in London and biting its leg pretty severely. Afterward, the owner was like, "it is such a nice dog". etc.

                              If I see a pitbull, I always make sure to move far away

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                              • G George K
                                18 Nov 2024, 02:04

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:

                                I remember the graph you shared illustrating the danger of the breed. Where's the line, though? Is it just pit bulls? Get rid of them and all's fine?

                                image.jpeg

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 02:42 last edited by Aqua Letifer
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                                @George-K said in So sweet:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:

                                I remember the graph you shared illustrating the danger of the breed. Where's the line, though? Is it just pit bulls? Get rid of them and all's fine?

                                image.jpeg

                                Yep, that's the one, thanks.

                                So what's the acceptable number? And is it fatalities we should be worried about, or injuries? Regarding either, do we care about how the dogs were raised prior to the attack, or are we going to assume that it's the breed itself that's dangerous?

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • A Aqua Letifer
                                  18 Nov 2024, 02:42

                                  @George-K said in So sweet:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:

                                  I remember the graph you shared illustrating the danger of the breed. Where's the line, though? Is it just pit bulls? Get rid of them and all's fine?

                                  image.jpeg

                                  Yep, that's the one, thanks.

                                  So what's the acceptable number? And is it fatalities we should be worried about, or injuries? Regarding either, do we care about how the dogs were raised prior to the attack, or are we going to assume that it's the breed itself that's dangerous?

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 02:48 last edited by
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:

                                  re we going to assume that it's the breed itself that's dangerous?

                                  I'm profoundly ignorant when it comes to dog breeds.

                                  However, my ignorance has never stopped me from opining.

                                  Border collies have very different behavioral traits from Shelties, from Poodles.

                                  I think it's fair to say that various dog breeds have developed because of selective breeding for various traits. The fact that pit bulls have more than 10X the fatal attacks in the US than German Shepherds and 40 times more likely than a Doberman says something about the breed.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    18 Nov 2024, 02:48

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:

                                    re we going to assume that it's the breed itself that's dangerous?

                                    I'm profoundly ignorant when it comes to dog breeds.

                                    However, my ignorance has never stopped me from opining.

                                    Border collies have very different behavioral traits from Shelties, from Poodles.

                                    I think it's fair to say that various dog breeds have developed because of selective breeding for various traits. The fact that pit bulls have more than 10X the fatal attacks in the US than German Shepherds and 40 times more likely than a Doberman says something about the breed.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 03:09 last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in So sweet:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in So sweet:

                                    re we going to assume that it's the breed itself that's dangerous?

                                    I'm profoundly ignorant when it comes to dog breeds.

                                    However, my ignorance has never stopped me from opining.

                                    Border collies have very different behavioral traits from Shelties, from Poodles.

                                    I think it's fair to say that various dog breeds have developed because of selective breeding for various traits. The fact that pit bulls have more than 10X the fatal attacks in the US than German Shepherds and 40 times more likely than a Doberman says something about the breed.

                                    Right, and I'm on board with that. But when we (social "we") start discussing the relative safety of dog breeds, all I hear is "Pitties bad." Why? Because Pitties bad. Where should the line be? Pitties bad.

                                    Seems a crap answer to me. Should be, "Pitt bulls are bad because here's the threshold I'm comfortable with, this number right here. Here's why this number is most important to me. And so here's the number associated with Pitt bulls. This is why I have a problem with this breed and only this breed. If other breeds crossed this threshold, I'd have a problem with them, too. If Pitt bulls stopped crossing this threshold, I'd no longer have a problem with them."

                                    That seems far more reasonable to me but I don't really hear that.

                                    For me, attacks are more important than fatal attacks because if my kid loses an eye from one, I'm not going to say, "well it wasn't fatal so it's not a matter of grave concern."

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 03:37 last edited by
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                                      Well, I’m not going to make you any happier. Whether Pitbulls are more or less likely to attack than other dogs raised in similar circumstances is not adequately determined.
                                      But here’s the thing, any dog can have a bad moment, even the best trained and most well behaved breeds. They are animals, after all. Per capita, I believe labs have the highest number of incidents. The difference is scope. A lab having his worst day may bite somebody. A pit having a bad day.. That’s a very bad day.

                                      The Brad

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 04:05 last edited by
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                                        If there's a huge gap between pits and other breeds in the statistics, then there's plenty of room to draw a line between them.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • H Horace
                                          18 Nov 2024, 04:05

                                          If there's a huge gap between pits and other breeds in the statistics, then there's plenty of room to draw a line between them.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
                                          wrote on 18 Nov 2024, 04:21 last edited by
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                                          @Horace said in So sweet:

                                          If there's a huge gap between pits and other breeds in the statistics, then there's plenty of room to draw a line between them.

                                          Okay then what it is it for you? Do you look only at fatal attacks or attacks more generally? And what would be your comfortable threshold?

                                          I'm not making a point about asking those, I'm genuinely curious. (Pretty much the only point I'm making is that it's been difficult to find others who are willing to articulate this.)

                                          Please love yourself.

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