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Car Seats as Contraception

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  • George KG Offline
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    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3665046

    Since 1977, U.S. states have passed laws steadily raising the age for which a child must ride in a car safety seat. These laws significantly raise the cost of having a third child, as many regular-sized cars cannot fit three child seats in the back. Using census data and state-year variation in laws, we estimate that when women have two children of ages requiring mandated car seats, they have a lower annual probability of giving birth by 0.73 percentage points. Consistent with a causal channel, this effect is limited to third child births, is concentrated in households with access to a car, and is larger when a male is present (when both front seats are likely to be occupied). We estimate that these laws prevented only 57 car crash fatalities of children nationwide in 2017. Simultaneously, they led to a permanent reduction of approximately 8,000 births in the same year, and 145,000 fewer births since 1980, with 90% of this decline being since 2000.

    Meanwhile, another observational correlation.

    860-header-explainer-correlationchart-936229549.jpg

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      lol

      I was only joking

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        xenon
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        I love that spurious correlation website:

        https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          We just had to throw a very good car seat away. I had not realized this, but the FDA puts expiration dates on the car seats. No charities or 2nd hand stores are allowed to take them, and there are even rules against it on social Media.

          The Brad

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          • George KG George K

            https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3665046

            Since 1977, U.S. states have passed laws steadily raising the age for which a child must ride in a car safety seat. These laws significantly raise the cost of having a third child, as many regular-sized cars cannot fit three child seats in the back. Using census data and state-year variation in laws, we estimate that when women have two children of ages requiring mandated car seats, they have a lower annual probability of giving birth by 0.73 percentage points. Consistent with a causal channel, this effect is limited to third child births, is concentrated in households with access to a car, and is larger when a male is present (when both front seats are likely to be occupied). We estimate that these laws prevented only 57 car crash fatalities of children nationwide in 2017. Simultaneously, they led to a permanent reduction of approximately 8,000 births in the same year, and 145,000 fewer births since 1980, with 90% of this decline being since 2000.

            Meanwhile, another observational correlation.

            860-header-explainer-correlationchart-936229549.jpg

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            @George-K said in Car Seats as Contraception:

            Consistent with a causal channel, this effect is limited to third child births, is concentrated in households with access to a car, and is larger when a male is present (when both front seats are likely to be occupied).

            Are they actually trying to say that the chances of having a third child are lower when a male is present?

            I was only joking

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              I may have the exact number wrong, but...

              Bill Cosby was asked why he had 5 kids.

              "Because we didn't want 6."

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                LuFins Dad
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                Smaller backseats help as contraception in other ways, too.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  We just had to throw a very good car seat away. I had not realized this, but the FDA puts expiration dates on the car seats. No charities or 2nd hand stores are allowed to take them, and there are even rules against it on social Media.

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in Car Seats as Contraception:

                  We just had to throw a very good car seat away. I had not realized this, but the FDA puts expiration dates on the car seats. No charities or 2nd hand stores are allowed to take them, and there are even rules against it on social Media.

                  Not just the FDA. I believe expiration on children’s car seats is present throughout the developed world.

                  Elbows up!

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                    A friend once told me that the # of kids parents believe would make life easy is N - 1, where N is the actual number of kids you currently have. LOL

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      A friend once told me that the # of kids parents believe would make life easy is N - 1, where N is the actual number of kids you currently have. LOL

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                      @taiwan_girl said in Car Seats as Contraception:

                      A friend once told me that the # of kids parents believe would make life easy is N - 1, where N is the actual number of kids you currently have. LOL

                      Not just the parents. When my son was about 2 and my daughter was a baby, he turned to us and said very politely and solemnly, 'I think we should take her back to the hospital now'.

                      I was only joking

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                        @taiwan_girl said in Car Seats as Contraception:

                        A friend once told me that the # of kids parents believe would make life easy is N - 1, where N is the actual number of kids you currently have. LOL

                        Not just the parents. When my son was about 2 and my daughter was a baby, he turned to us and said very politely and solemnly, 'I think we should take her back to the hospital now'.

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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Car Seats as Contraception:

                        Not just the parents. When my son was about 2 and my daughter was a baby, he turned to us and said very politely and solemnly, 'I think we should take her back to the hospital now'.

                        A friend once told me that the # of kids parents believe would make life easy is N - 1, where N is the actual number of kids you currently have. LOL

                        When we told our 3 daughters that we were expecting a fourth, D1 (she was 4 at the time, iirc) said, "NO! Three is enough."

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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