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Butker calls it out.

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #4

    Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder

    IVF and surrogacy - seriously? He can fuck off.

    I was only joking

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      Jolly
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      #5

      Article spends more time on comments than on what the man said.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder

        IVF and surrogacy - seriously? He can fuck off.

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        Jolly
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        #6

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

        Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder

        IVF and surrogacy - seriously? He can fuck off.

        He's Catholic. Old Skool version.

        I understand his position.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by Mik
          #7

          I think we need IT on this one. he's very good at explaining Catholic theology as it relates to modern trends.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

            Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder

            IVF and surrogacy - seriously? He can fuck off.

            He's Catholic. Old Skool version.

            I understand his position.

            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
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            #8

            @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

            Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder

            IVF and surrogacy - seriously? He can fuck off.

            He's Catholic. Old Skool version.

            I understand his position.

            Trying to relate IVF and surrogacy with 'degenerate cultural values' and 'disorder' isn't the smartest thing I've heard this week. Of course, being a professional footballer I'm sure he's got a lot more experience of dealing with this sort of issue than the rest of us.

            He can fuck off.

            I was only joking

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            • MikM Mik

              I think we need IT on this one. he's very good at explaining Catholic theology as it relates to modern trends.

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #9

              @Mik said in Butker calls it out.:

              I think we need IT on this one. he's very good at explaining Catholic theology as it relates to modern trends.

              Judging by some of the discussions I see on IT's highly entertaining Facebook page, there's a fair amount of disagreement on a number of 'modern trends' amongst the faithful.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder

                IVF and surrogacy - seriously? He can fuck off.

                He's Catholic. Old Skool version.

                I understand his position.

                Trying to relate IVF and surrogacy with 'degenerate cultural values' and 'disorder' isn't the smartest thing I've heard this week. Of course, being a professional footballer I'm sure he's got a lot more experience of dealing with this sort of issue than the rest of us.

                He can fuck off.

                JollyJ Offline
                JollyJ Offline
                Jolly
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                #10

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder

                IVF and surrogacy - seriously? He can fuck off.

                He's Catholic. Old Skool version.

                I understand his position.

                Trying to relate IVF and surrogacy with 'degenerate cultural values' and 'disorder' isn't the smartest thing I've heard this week. Of course, being a professional footballer I'm sure he's got a lot more experience of dealing with this sort of issue than the rest of us.

                He can fuck off.

                So can you, asshole.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                  @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                  Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder

                  IVF and surrogacy - seriously? He can fuck off.

                  He's Catholic. Old Skool version.

                  I understand his position.

                  Trying to relate IVF and surrogacy with 'degenerate cultural values' and 'disorder' isn't the smartest thing I've heard this week. Of course, being a professional footballer I'm sure he's got a lot more experience of dealing with this sort of issue than the rest of us.

                  He can fuck off.

                  So can you, asshole.

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #11

                  @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                  So can you, asshole.

                  I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                    So can you, asshole.

                    I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.

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                    Jolly
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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                    @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                    So can you, asshole.

                    I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.

                    No, some people have belief systems and principles. Can't say boo-shit about Muslims around here without you taking up for them, so I don't mind taking up for this guy.

                    He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life. Maybe some people are not naturally going to conceive...Maybe that's God's Will. Maybe they adopt some unwanted child and try to give it a loving home.

                    So you may not agree with his belief, but it's far from a fuck off.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                      So can you, asshole.

                      I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.

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                      Copper
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                      #13

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                      The idea that children

                      It's more likely he would give responsibility to the parents, not the children.

                      Did you really get the idea that he was blaming the children?

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                        @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                        So can you, asshole.

                        I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.

                        No, some people have belief systems and principles. Can't say boo-shit about Muslims around here without you taking up for them, so I don't mind taking up for this guy.

                        He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life. Maybe some people are not naturally going to conceive...Maybe that's God's Will. Maybe they adopt some unwanted child and try to give it a loving home.

                        So you may not agree with his belief, but it's far from a fuck off.

                        MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
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                        #14

                        @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                        @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                        So can you, asshole.

                        I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.

                        No, some people have belief systems and principles. Can't say boo-shit about Muslims around here without you taking up for them, so I don't mind taking up for this guy.

                        He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life. Maybe some people are not naturally going to conceive...Maybe that's God's Will. Maybe they adopt some unwanted child and try to give it a loving home.

                        So you may not agree with his belief, but it's far from a fuck off.

                        It’s also how same sex couples are getting children, which may be also what he was getting at.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                          @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                          So can you, asshole.

                          I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.

                          No, some people have belief systems and principles. Can't say boo-shit about Muslims around here without you taking up for them, so I don't mind taking up for this guy.

                          He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life. Maybe some people are not naturally going to conceive...Maybe that's God's Will. Maybe they adopt some unwanted child and try to give it a loving home.

                          So you may not agree with his belief, but it's far from a fuck off.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                          He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life.

                          Caesarian section interferes with God's plan too. We should probably stop people doing that and have them die like in the good old days.

                          Equating contraception, IVF and surrogacy with abortion is asinine.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                            He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life.

                            Caesarian section interferes with God's plan too. We should probably stop people doing that and have them die like in the good old days.

                            Equating contraception, IVF and surrogacy with abortion is asinine.

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                            Copper
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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                            Equating contraception, IVF and surrogacy with abortion is asinine beyond the ability of some to understand.

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                              @Jolly said in Butker calls it out.:

                              So can you, asshole.

                              I could, but I'm not going to. The idea that children born to surrogacy are somehow contributing to the global malaise and moral decline of the world is pretty fucking stupid. The fact that you appear to sympathise with his position doesn't automatically make it any less so.

                              No, some people have belief systems and principles. Can't say boo-shit about Muslims around here without you taking up for them, so I don't mind taking up for this guy.

                              He believes like very traditional Catholics do, that IVF, abortion, etc., all interfere with God's normal gifts of life. Maybe some people are not naturally going to conceive...Maybe that's God's Will. Maybe they adopt some unwanted child and try to give it a loving home.

                              So you may not agree with his belief, but it's far from a fuck off.

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                              Renauda
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                              @Jolly

                              Maybe some people are not naturally going to conceive...Maybe that's God's Will.

                              Not at all likely.

                              Elbows up!

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                                Copper
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                                The Lord is subtle but not malicious.

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                                • CopperC Copper

                                  The Lord is subtle but not malicious.

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                                  @Copper said in Butker calls it out.:

                                  The Lord is subtle but not malicious.

                                  You might very well think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling through Biden's robust economy.

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                                    • CopperC Copper

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                                      Equating contraception, IVF and surrogacy with abortion is asinine beyond the ability of some to understand.

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                                      @Copper said in Butker calls it out.:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Butker calls it out.:

                                      Equating contraception, IVF and surrogacy with abortion is asinine beyond the ability of some to understand.

                                      Cleverer men than I have tried...

                                      Link to video

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • kluursK kluurs

                                        He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling through Biden's robust economy.

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                                        @kluurs said in Butker calls it out.:

                                        He's getting trashed on Tik Tok (younger crowd) primarily for encouraging women to quit the workforce and be moms at a commencement ceremony. It was pointed out that he has quite a nice home with 2 kitchens - and seems tone deaf when most Americans can't survive on a single salary. He was also beaten up a bit for what some felt were unnecessary attacks against the gay community. This and the Met Gala are hot topics right now with the villagers wanting to storm the castle and cancel elite rich people flaunting privilege while people are struggling through Biden's robust economy.

                                        I think the reason they're so pissed, is that there is some truth there for some people.

                                        1. A significant percentage of young women are now on psychotropic drugs. I think that stems from not having any grounding in your place in the world.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Cont...

                                          Maybe that's because some young women should work. Some should have careers. Maybe some should be homemakers. The career superwoman with two children is an unobtainable goal for many.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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