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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
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    #3

    I can support teachers workloads being lessened, and in some cases more pay. In Chicago, however, they’re pumping a dry well.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Horace
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      #4

      The data have long been in regarding throwing money at public schooling, and how it improves results.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Copper
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        #5

        Pay for results.

        But then nobody would teach the stupid children.

        The results could take into consideration whether a student meets their potential.

        A good education is not for everyone.

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        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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          taiwan_girl
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          #6

          What is the average teacher workyear in the US? 9 months? 10 months?

          (I do understand that it would be hard for a teacher to find a 2-3 month job when it is the school break, but $/yr is somewhat mislead when it is not a full 12 month year. And yes, teachers do have a hard job)

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            What is the average teacher workyear in the US? 9 months? 10 months?

            (I do understand that it would be hard for a teacher to find a 2-3 month job when it is the school break, but $/yr is somewhat mislead when it is not a full 12 month year. And yes, teachers do have a hard job)

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #7

            @taiwan_girl said in Getting paid in Chicago...:

            What is the average teacher workyear in the US? 9 months? 10 months?

            (I do understand that it would be hard for a teacher to find a 2-3 month job when it is the school break, but $/yr is somewhat mislead when it is not a full 12 month year. And yes, teachers do have a hard job)

            Depends on the teacher. Down here, classroom guys work about 9 months. Band teachers and VoAg teachers work 10-11 months, depending on school district. Master teachers work 10 months. Principals, Asst. Principals and coaches tend to work 11-12 months.

            Personally, I like the Texas Robin Hood Law. I know it stinks for rich districts, but it sure does level the playing field in recruiting the best teachers and helps with some facilities (I think it absolutely awful to pass by a Texas high school and see a 20,000 seat football stadium).

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @taiwan_girl said in Getting paid in Chicago...:

              What is the average teacher workyear in the US? 9 months? 10 months?

              (I do understand that it would be hard for a teacher to find a 2-3 month job when it is the school break, but $/yr is somewhat mislead when it is not a full 12 month year. And yes, teachers do have a hard job)

              Depends on the teacher. Down here, classroom guys work about 9 months. Band teachers and VoAg teachers work 10-11 months, depending on school district. Master teachers work 10 months. Principals, Asst. Principals and coaches tend to work 11-12 months.

              Personally, I like the Texas Robin Hood Law. I know it stinks for rich districts, but it sure does level the playing field in recruiting the best teachers and helps with some facilities (I think it absolutely awful to pass by a Texas high school and see a 20,000 seat football stadium).

              taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
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              @Jolly said in Getting paid in Chicago...:

              I like the Texas Robin Hood Law.

              What is that? (I assume taking from the rich and giving to the poor in some way?)

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @Jolly said in Getting paid in Chicago...:

                I like the Texas Robin Hood Law.

                What is that? (I assume taking from the rich and giving to the poor in some way?)

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                @taiwan_girl said in Getting paid in Chicago...:

                @Jolly said in Getting paid in Chicago...:

                I like the Texas Robin Hood Law.

                What is that? (I assume taking from the rich and giving to the poor in some way?)

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Hood_plan

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  taiwan_girl
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                  #10

                  Thanks!

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    Chicago teachers' $50B demands include pay hikes, abortions, migrant accommodation


                    The Chicago Teachers Union (CTU) is negotiating a new contract with the public schools system and is understood to be calling for an extra $50 billion to pay for wage hikes as well as other demands such as fully paid abortions for its members, new migrant services and facilities and a host of LGBT-related requirements and training in schools.

                    To put the figure into context, the total base tax receipts for the state of Illinois last year were $50.7 billion.

                    The incredible demands are being made despite its members delivering underwhelming results for its students, with only 21 percent of the city’s eighth graders being proficient readers, according to the last Nation’s Report Card, which provides national results about students' performance...

                    Union President Stacy Davis Gates’ audacious plan calls for members to bank at least 9% wage increases each year through fiscal year 2028.

                    The average salary of a teacher in Chicago Public Schools is $93,182, according to research by the Illinois Policy Institute, a conservative nonprofit think tank. Therefore, the average teacher’s pay will increase by half to $144,620 in the 2027-2028 school year, it says.

                    That figure would equate to more than double the median household income in Chicago, according to Census Bureau statistics.

                    The Chicago Tribune reports that the CPS budget will exceed $9 billion this year, up nearly 30% from $7.4 billion just five years ago. Much of that increase is reflected in teacher salaries, which are among the highest of any big-city teachers in the country.

                    Last school year, the district spent more than $21,000 per student, far above the national average of $14,347, according to census data. ...

                    There is also a whole host of other social justice provisions the union wants, including making sure workers and educators are trained annually on LGBTQ+ issues as a qualification in their job description.

                    The union also wants to mandate that every school in the district has at least one gender-neutral bathroom.

                    Additionally, it wants the board to adopt policies that would prohibit any member from being compelled to tell parents when a student rejects his or her sex, according to the documents.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #12

                      extra $50 billion to pay for wage hikes as well as other demands such as fully paid abortions for its members,

                      Additionally, it wants the board to adopt policies that would prohibit any member from being compelled to tell parents when a student rejects his or her sex, according to the documents.

                      So they don’t want to parent their children, and don’t believe you should parent yours.

                      The Brad

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                      • George KG George K

                        Chicago teachers' $50B demands include pay hikes, abortions, migrant accommodation


                        The Chicago Teachers Union (CTU) is negotiating a new contract with the public schools system and is understood to be calling for an extra $50 billion to pay for wage hikes as well as other demands such as fully paid abortions for its members, new migrant services and facilities and a host of LGBT-related requirements and training in schools.

                        To put the figure into context, the total base tax receipts for the state of Illinois last year were $50.7 billion.

                        The incredible demands are being made despite its members delivering underwhelming results for its students, with only 21 percent of the city’s eighth graders being proficient readers, according to the last Nation’s Report Card, which provides national results about students' performance...

                        Union President Stacy Davis Gates’ audacious plan calls for members to bank at least 9% wage increases each year through fiscal year 2028.

                        The average salary of a teacher in Chicago Public Schools is $93,182, according to research by the Illinois Policy Institute, a conservative nonprofit think tank. Therefore, the average teacher’s pay will increase by half to $144,620 in the 2027-2028 school year, it says.

                        That figure would equate to more than double the median household income in Chicago, according to Census Bureau statistics.

                        The Chicago Tribune reports that the CPS budget will exceed $9 billion this year, up nearly 30% from $7.4 billion just five years ago. Much of that increase is reflected in teacher salaries, which are among the highest of any big-city teachers in the country.

                        Last school year, the district spent more than $21,000 per student, far above the national average of $14,347, according to census data. ...

                        There is also a whole host of other social justice provisions the union wants, including making sure workers and educators are trained annually on LGBTQ+ issues as a qualification in their job description.

                        The union also wants to mandate that every school in the district has at least one gender-neutral bathroom.

                        Additionally, it wants the board to adopt policies that would prohibit any member from being compelled to tell parents when a student rejects his or her sex, according to the documents.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        @George-K said in Getting paid in Chicago...:

                        The average salary of a teacher in Chicago Public Schools is $93,182

                        Pay for performance and that number would be cut in half.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          #14

                          All this information is public information.

                          https://www.cps.edu/about/finance/employee-position-files/

                          Here's the top of the spreadsheet.

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Copper
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                            Teachers flee nation's largest union in a crisis of its own making

                            During the 2023 school year, NEA funneled a whopping $176 million of dues revenue directly to the pockets of political candidates and ideological causes

                            For the sixth year in a row, the National Education Association (NEA) faces a mass exodus of members. But the blame doesn’t lie with a shrinking student population or loss of funding, as NEA president Becky Pringle would have you believe. The NEA’s blatant prioritization of a radical political agenda at the expense of member representation is the true culprit, resulting in a loss of more than 12,000 members in 2023, per the union’s latest financial report.

                            https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/teachers-flee-nations-largest-union-crisis-making

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                              Jolly
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                              I think they've forgotten who they are and what their purpose is...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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