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Biden's Fingerprints

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #25

    Staged photos.

    Tampered evidence.

    Fake cover pages.

    https://www.declassified.live/p/the-dojs-doctored-crime-scene-photo

    “[Thirteen] boxes or containers contained documents with classification markings, and in all, over one hundred unique documents with classification markings…were seized. Certain of the documents had colored cover sheets indicating their classification status. (Emphasis added.) See, e.g., Attachment F (redacted FBI photograph of certain documents and classified cover sheets recovered from a container in the ‘45 office’).”

    The DOJ’s clever wordsmithing, however, did not accurately describe the origin of the cover sheets. In what must be considered not only an act of doctoring evidence but willfully misleading the American people into believing the former president is a criminal and threat to national security, agents involved in the raid attached the cover sheets to at least seven files to stage the photo.

    Classified cover sheets were not “recovered” in the container, contrary to Bratt’s declaration to the court. In fact, after being busted recently by defense attorneys for mishandling evidence in the case, Bratt had to fess up about how the cover sheets actually ended up on the documents.

    During the raid, agents took a box in its entirety if it contained papers with classified markings; the box usually contained other items, which is how the FBI ended up with so many of Trump’s personal belongings.

    So, in order to flag the location of the alleged classified record in the box, agents, as Bratt noted, used the cover sheets as placeholders. (The classified records were then placed in a separate secure file.)

    But now defense attorneys claim, and the special counsel concedes, that some placeholders do not match the relevant document. “Following defense counsel’s review of the physical boxes…and the documents produced in classified discovery, defense counsel has learned that the cross-reference provided by the Special Counsel’s Office does not contain accurate information,” attorneys representing Trump’s co-defendant Waltine Nauta wrote in a May 1 motion.

    The motion forced the special counsel to admit the error. “In many but not all instances, the FBI was able to determine which document with classification markings corresponded to a particular placeholder sheet,” Bratt wrote.

    In other words, in their zeal to stage a phony photo using official classified cover sheets, FBI agents might have failed to accurately match the placeholder sheet with the appropriate document. This is a potentially case-blowing mistake, particularly if the document in question is one of the 34 records that represents the basis of espionage charges against Trump.

    And the judge is going to address the validity of Jack Smith's appointment later this month.

    Screenshot 2024-05-08 at 9.51.24 AM.png

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      Jordan wants answers about the "ethical impropriety of Jack Smith":

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        That’s a significant breach, it seems to me. It is very possible that this case gets tossed for prosecutorial misconduct. If that happens, the usual suspects will just blame the judge…

        The Brad

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          LuFins Dad
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          #28

          Weird to think that the case with the most actual teeth might have been the debate over the value of the Trump assets.

          The Brad

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            Again...If all three of the lawfare cases fall apart, what political impact does that have?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Again...If all three of the lawfare cases fall apart, what political impact does that have?

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #30

              @Jolly said in Biden's Fingerprints:

              Again...If all three of the lawfare cases fall apart, what political impact does that have?

              See @LuFins-Dad's comment above.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Again...If all three of the lawfare cases fall apart, what political impact does that have?

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                @Jolly said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                Again...If all three of the lawfare cases fall apart, what political impact does that have?

                None. The same as if all 3 came back guilty.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @Jolly said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                  Again...If all three of the lawfare cases fall apart, what political impact does that have?

                  None. The same as if all 3 came back guilty.

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                  @Jolly said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                  Again...If all three of the lawfare cases fall apart, what political impact does that have?

                  None. The same as if all 3 came back guilty.

                  Surely it would move some independents?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                    @Jolly said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                    Again...If all three of the lawfare cases fall apart, what political impact does that have?

                    None. The same as if all 3 came back guilty.

                    Surely it would move some independents?

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #33

                    @Jolly said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                    @Jolly said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                    Again...If all three of the lawfare cases fall apart, what political impact does that have?

                    None. The same as if all 3 came back guilty.

                    Surely it would move some independents?

                    No such critter when it comes to Trump and the cases.

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @Jolly said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                      @Jolly said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                      Again...If all three of the lawfare cases fall apart, what political impact does that have?

                      None. The same as if all 3 came back guilty.

                      Surely it would move some independents?

                      No such critter when it comes to Trump and the cases.

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Biden's Fingerprints:

                      No such critter when it comes to Trump and the cases.

                      My understanding is that the Democrats are losing independents.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        #35

                        The issue isn’t “independents”, it’s undecided voters. How many undecided voters do you really think there are? And do you think the court decisions will really sway them?

                        The Brad

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