What’s happening at Columbia?
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@George-K said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
@Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
@George-K they look a little long of tooth for students
In fairness, some might be faculty.
To me they look like people who ought to know better than they do.
Which reminds me….
The other day during a press conference in NYC the mayor made some statement to the effect that agitators from the outside were brought in to radicalise “our children” attending the university. I agree that protesting students behave like children but they are adults 18 years of age of and over. They should be called adults and treated like adults. Calling them children lets them off the hook for their actions. The mayor, whoever he is, is way out of line referring to the students as children. I can only hope he too knows better. I doubt it.
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If I'm honest I don't really think I was an adult until I was at least 25. Some have said considerably later.
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Point taken that few people, especially males, do act like adults until over 21. Some never do. But that is not the my point. 18 year olds are legally adults, not children. While their behaviour may be childish, their responsibility and accountability are those of an adult.
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@Renauda said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
few people, especially males, do act like adults until over 21
As I've said many, many times. It's not like, at age 21, the "maturity switch" gets flipped to the "on" position.
18 year olds are legally adults, not children.
Yup. You want the benefits (voting, marriage, drinking, etc) be prepared to accept the responsibilities and consequences
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@George-K said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
You want the benefits (voting, marriage, drinking, etc)
Americans aren't allowed to drink at 18, so they are still being treated differently at that age in that way at least.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Americans aren't allowed to drink at 18
In some states, like Wisconsin, it was permitted for beer. A Friday night trip up to Kenosha was a common occurrence in the college crowd.
I believe it's still permitted if in the company of your parents. I had beers at a restaurant with D2 when she was 19.
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@George-K said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Americans aren't allowed to drink at 18
In some states, like Wisconsin, it was permitted for beer. A Friday night trip up to Kenosha was a common occurrence in the college crowd.
I believe it's still permitted if in the company of your parents. I had beers at a restaurant with D2 when she was 19.
Which really emphasizes the point that they're not considered to be fully adult. Obviously, they can join up and go fight in wars and shit, but they're not allowed to drink because it's bad for their health or something.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Which really emphasizes the point that they're not considered to be fully adult
Yeah, but you can get pretty shit-faced on beer, amirite?
But your point about drinking with an adult/parent/guardian is a valid one.
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@George-K said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Yeah, but you can get pretty shit-faced on beer, amirite?
I don't know for sure but I'm willing to start a research project, provided I can get the funding.
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Obviously, they can join up and go fight in wars and shit, but they're not allowed to drink because it's bad for their health or something.
I think there’s more to it than health. In part it’s a lingering hangover from the Temperance Movement of the 19 Century and Prohibition. The roots there go into puritanical Protestant morality on sinful excess and immoral behaviours. Some provinces here went through it as well and were slow to change the law from 21. Most have the legal age set at 19. Alberta, Quebec and Manitoba have the age set in line with the age of majority - 18 years old. All three of those provinces have always maintained the strongest French roots tied to the Catholic Church in the country.
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@Renauda said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Obviously, they can join up and go fight in wars and shit, but they're not allowed to drink because it's bad for their health or something.
I think there’s more to it than health. In part it’s a lingering hangover from the Temperance Movement of the 19 Century and Prohibition. The roots there go into puritanical Protestant morality on sinful excess and immoral behaviours. Some provinces here went through it as well and were slow to change the law from 21. Most have the legal age set at 19. Alberta, Quebec and Manitoba have the age set in line with the age of majority - 18 years old. All three of those provinces have always maintained the strongest French roots tied to the Catholic Church in the country.
Our little town has a number of ties to the family of the famously miserable puritan Roger Williams - in fact, some of his extended family are buried right next door. There are large numbers of apple orchards here, presumably because vineyards would have been considered sinful. I feel the need to redress this imbalance.
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Apples make a thoroughly sinful brew known as cider. What makes cider doubly sinful is some of the best ciders in the world come from the predominantly Catholic region of France, Brittany where medieval monks maintained apple orchards and concocted deliciously sinful brews from the forbidden fruits of their monastic labours!
I say, Go for it, Phibes!!