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  • JollyJ Offline
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    A pretty good look at Mike...

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/04/20/a_beleaguered_gentleman_speaker_mike_johnson.html

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Anybody Margorie Taylor Greene dislikes that much can't be all bad.

      He seems to be acting like a grownup. Hopefully the stupid assholes trying to get rid of him will get theirs in the long run.

      I was only joking

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      • MikM Away
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        Tyranny of the minority. I think he's been a good speaker.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          Anybody Margorie Taylor Greene dislikes that much can't be all bad.

          He seems to be acting like a grownup. Hopefully the stupid assholes trying to get rid of him will get theirs in the long run.

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          @Doctor-Phibes said in Know Your Johnson:

          Anybody Margorie Taylor Greene dislikes

          Johnson Takes On the Arsonists

          As he seems to comprehend, Speaker Johnson is responsible for the entire House of Representatives, not solely for the Republican caucus — and certainly not solely for the tiny sliver of the Republican caucus that believes, à la the Squad, that it will be able to get its own way by being obstreperous and absurd. If, in time, Johnson proves as serious in purpose as he has become in tone, he may well have signaled a welcome shift in the operation of our national legislature.

          Over the last decade or so, politicians in both parties have managed to convince the loudest and most gullible members of their bases that the only thing that stands in the way of the total victory of their faction is the willingness of their legislators to “fight.” In this view, the number of representatives or senators the parties have does not matter, nor whether they control the presidency, nor whether their aims are consonant with the terms of the U.S. Constitution; the problem is always held to be a lack of moral fiber on the part of those who have been sent to D.C. Last year, a handful of Republicans removed Speaker Kevin McCarthy in the hope that their chosen replacement might possess superpowers that enabled him to overcome the stubborn facts that the Democrats control the Senate and that Joe Biden is the president of the United States. Now, the same few are talking themselves into the idea that if they replace Mike Johnson, too, they might finally hit upon that elusive magic bullet.

          This is nonsense.

          One of the cardinal rules of conservatism — and of success in politics, for that matter — is that one must always start from where one actually is. The Republican Party may be correct on a whole host of questions, but, for whatever reason, it has not managed to convince the public that it is so correct that it ought to be given untrammeled control over the government. Until it does, it will have to work with the others, and its speaker will have to reject the fantasies of the fringe, to proceed with reference to political reality, and to let others throw the chips around wildly — as they may, and undoubtedly will.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            People need to learn what is possible.

            The Brad

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              There's no such thing as total victory in politics, at least in a democratic system. Anybody who thinks there is is an idiot.

              I was only joking

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                People need to learn what is possible.

                MikM Away
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                @LuFins-Dad said in Know Your Johnson:

                People need to learn what is possible.

                Not just what is possible, but what is healthy for the nation. Constant polar opposition has yielded little to nothing, outside of a conservative court. Even that has shown itself to be willing to hand down opinions contrary to the far right orthodoxy.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Know Your Johnson:

                  People need to learn what is possible.

                  Not just what is possible, but what is healthy for the nation. Constant polar opposition has yielded little to nothing, outside of a conservative court. Even that has shown itself to be willing to hand down opinions contrary to the far right orthodoxy.

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                  @Mik said in Know Your Johnson:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Know Your Johnson:

                  People need to learn what is possible.

                  Not just what is possible, but what is healthy for the nation. Constant polar opposition has yielded little to nothing, outside of a conservative court. Even that has shown itself to be willing to hand down opinions contrary to the far right orthodoxy.

                  But those rulings (for the most part) have been based in the law. Yes, SCOTUS disappoints me occasionally, but I feel we are in a better place than we were in 2015.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    Which is precisely what a constitutionally based SCOTUS should do. We're in a much better place than we were in that respect.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        @George-K said in Know Your Johnson:

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                        All the news that's fit to print.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Tyranny of the minority. I think he's been a good speaker.

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                          @Mik said in Know Your Johnson:

                          Tyranny of the minority. I think he's been a good speaker.

                          He’s definitely exceeded my expectations.

                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                            I would say that that Johnson is demonstrating a rare quality nowadays. Statesmanship and dedication to the office. Two unassailable competencies lost on many so called leading politicians of today’s world.

                            Elbows up!

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