Not on the ballot in Ohio?
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Ohio’s secretary of state on Friday signaled that the Democratic National Convention may take place too late for President Joe Biden to appear on the general election ballot in the state, according to a letter obtained by NBC News.
“The Democratic National Convention is scheduled to convene on August 19, 2024, which occurs more than a week after the August 7 deadline to certify a presidential candidate to the office,” Secretary of State Frank LaRose wrote to Ohio Democratic Party Chairwoman Liz Walters.
ABC News first reported about the existence and content of this letter.
In the note, LaRose goes on to say that the oversight can be rectified in two ways: either by the Democratic Party moving up its nominating convention or by getting the Ohio state legislature to “create an exemption to this statutory requirement” by May 9 in accordance with state law.
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From the RWEC:
There are two remedies available for the Democrats here, neither of which is particularly appetizing. The first and most direct option would be to move up the date of their convention by a couple of weeks. That would allow Biden to be officially declared the nominee in time to submit his name to the Ohio Secretary of State. But people plan for these events far in advance and most of the key players have no doubt already made travel arrangements and have other things on their schedule in late July and early August. That doesn't mean that it can't happen, but it would be a significant inconvenience.
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The alternative would be for the Ohio state legislature to pass an exemption to the statutory requirement. That path faces a couple of issues of its own, however. First of all, any such exemption would need to be put in place three months ahead of enactment, so it would need to happen by May 9, which is barely a month away. On top of that, the Republicans control the majority in both chambers of the state legislature. Are they really going to go out of their way to pass a special exemption allowing Joe Biden to appear on the ballot? We can't rule that out because refusing to do it would make for some horrible political optics, but we've seen crazier things take place in recent history.
Given the history of Democrat politicians (see Maine, for example), I wouldn't put it past the GOP in Ohio to
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Lawfare cuts two ways. I’d love to see it, and LaRose is just the asshole to do it. Not to mention Ohio’s legislature is GOP dominated.
@Mik said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
Lawfare cuts two ways.
I don't think, nor have I ever thought, that the GOP holds the moral high ground.
But, they're absolutely incompetent when it comes to setting precedent.
Wouldn't it be just delicious if they followed it?
You know, "No one is above the law," and all that shit.
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I wonder if that date is something new. I quick look at history of conventions shows that a lot of them are held during the end of August period (for both sides).
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It was in effect in 2020, but affected both parties. The legislature made a one-time exception to make it 60 days instead of 90. It would not surprise me if this was planned.
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It was in effect in 2020, but affected both parties. The legislature made a one-time exception to make it 60 days instead of 90. It would not surprise me if this was planned.
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Can we just go back to monarchies, now? Obviously this whole system didn’t work… And I don’t mean a Parliamentary Monarchy, either. Elect a king/queen, they serve for life, then a new election. We’ll avoid the whole dynastic problems.
The Brad
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Can we just go back to monarchies, now? Obviously this whole system didn’t work… And I don’t mean a Parliamentary Monarchy, either. Elect a king/queen, they serve for life, then a new election. We’ll avoid the whole dynastic problems.
@LuFins-Dad said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
Can we just go back to monarchies, now? Obviously this whole system didn’t work… And I don’t mean a Parliamentary Monarchy, either. Elect a king/queen, they serve for life, then a new election. We’ll avoid the whole dynastic problems.
I wanna go back to aristos instead of algorithms.
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Can we just go back to monarchies, now? Obviously this whole system didn’t work… And I don’t mean a Parliamentary Monarchy, either. Elect a king/queen, they serve for life, then a new election. We’ll avoid the whole dynastic problems.
@LuFins-Dad said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
Elect a king/queen, they serve for life, then a new election.
You will deal with recalls and revolutions and coup d’etat instead.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
Elect a king/queen, they serve for life, then a new election.
You will deal with recalls and revolutions and coup d’etat instead.
@Axtremus said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
@LuFins-Dad said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
Elect a king/queen, they serve for life, then a new election.
You will deal with recalls and revolutions and coup d’etat instead.
A lot of those happened because of income inequality of a degree that we're getting close to again.
Please love yourself.
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First, hang all the lawyers.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Axtremus said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
@LuFins-Dad said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
Elect a king/queen, they serve for life, then a new election.
You will deal with recalls and revolutions and coup d’etat instead.
A lot of those happened because of income inequality of a degree that we're getting close to again.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
A lot of those happened because of income inequality of a degree that we're getting close to again.
Yeap, I share the sentiment.
Equality is important.
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@Jolly said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
First, hang all the lawyers.
Well, it's what we do.
Conservatives are (rightly) quick to point out that every single attempt at a socialist system has devolved into totalitarianism.
But I think they turn a blind eye to income inequality. Its impetus for uprising is just as assured yet it's popular to pretend that it doesn't contribute. Which I kind of get, since we've never figured out a solution. We just burn shit down and start again with something new.
If there is another solution, I don't think capitalism forever is it. But I also don't know what the viable alternative is.
Please love yourself.
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President Joe Biden could be left off the ballot in Alabama, the state’s elections chief said Tuesday, because the state’s certification deadline comes several days before the Democratic Party’s convention.
Alabama Secretary of State Wes Allen, a Republican, made the statement Tuesday, a day after a similar concern was raised in Ohio that Biden could be left off the ballot in that state.
Allen sent a letter to Alabama Democratic Party Chairman Randy Kelley saying that the state’s Aug. 15 certification deadline is four days before the Democratic National Convention is set to begin. Allen indicated that Biden’s name will not appear on the ballot unless the deadline is met.
“If this Office has not received a valid certificate of nomination from the Democratic Party following its convention by the statutory deadline, I will be unable to certify the names of the Democratic Party’s candidates for President and Vice President for ballot preparation for the 2024 general election,” Allen wrote.
Kelley told The Associated Press Tuesday night that he had contacted the DNC about the matter to see what could be done. An option could be for the party to send in a provisional certification.
“Joe Biden will be on the ballot in all 50 states,” the Biden campaign said in a statement. “State officials have the ability to grant provisional ballot access certification prior to the conclusion of presidential nominating conventions. In 2020 alone, states like Alabama, Illinois, Montana, and Washington all allowed provisional certification for Democratic and Republican nominees.”
Alabama law requires the names of presidential nominees to be submitted 82 days before the election.
The Republican-controlled Alabama Legislature in 2020 passed legislation to change the certification deadline for the 2020 election. The bill stated that the change was being made “to accommodate the dates of the 2020 Republican National Convention.”
The deadline was pushed forward about a week that year. It was a one-time change that only applied to that year.
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@Jolly said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
First, hang all the lawyers.
Well, it's what we do.
Conservatives are (rightly) quick to point out that every single attempt at a socialist system has devolved into totalitarianism.
But I think they turn a blind eye to income inequality. Its impetus for uprising is just as assured yet it's popular to pretend that it doesn't contribute. Which I kind of get, since we've never figured out a solution. We just burn shit down and start again with something new.
If there is another solution, I don't think capitalism forever is it. But I also don't know what the viable alternative is.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
@Jolly said in Not on the ballot in Ohio?:
First, hang all the lawyers.
Well, it's what we do.
Conservatives are (rightly) quick to point out that every single attempt at a socialist system has devolved into totalitarianism.
But I think they turn a blind eye to income inequality. Its impetus for uprising is just as assured yet it's popular to pretend that it doesn't contribute. Which I kind of get, since we've never figured out a solution. We just burn shit down and start again with something new.
If there is another solution, I don't think capitalism forever is it. But I also don't know what the viable alternative is.
Opportunity is one of the solutions. An old axiom is Them that has, gets. Regardless of political affiliation, people with wealth use all types of tactics to remain wealthy.
In our modified capitalistic society, we have to have an opportunity mechanism that allows people to move up the economic ladder. That mechanism should be based on hard work and merit. It is our duty to provide the tools that allow people to climb the ladder and our duty to protect them from predators or gatekeepers as they do.
