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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

    @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

    Deflection.

    I stand by my statement.

    I had a back and forth with Larry, who never was willing to answer so I will ask you the same question

    Come up with 5 indicators about the US (for example: GDP growth, inflation, stock market returns, crime statistics, school performance, trade deficit/surplus, patents per capita, border crossings, unemployment, jail population, church attendance, etc etc etc (whatever you can think of)).

    I challenge you to find 5 that can be measured and are consistently either good or bad when the president is Republic or Democrat. Let's limit it to the last 75 years.

    I am not a gamble person, but I am willing to bet that (generic) you will not be able to find 5. There may be 1 out there, but I seriously seriously doubt five.

    Does the President make a difference? OF COURSE. But to say that the US will end if (TRUMP or HARRIS) is elected is overblow.

    VP Harris can talk all she wants about forcing grocery stores to lower prices. Not going to happen.
    President Trump can talk all he wants about eliminating inflation. Not going to happen.

    The US has enough checks and balances that the goofiest of the campaign "promises" made by the candidates fortunately never happen.

    I'll give you one.

    Perception. It's all you need.

    Public perception determines who gets elected, who gets defeated and how a president is remembered.

    taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on last edited by
    #136

    @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

    @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

    @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

    Deflection.

    I stand by my statement.

    I had a back and forth with Larry, who never was willing to answer so I will ask you the same question

    Come up with 5 indicators about the US (for example: GDP growth, inflation, stock market returns, crime statistics, school performance, trade deficit/surplus, patents per capita, border crossings, unemployment, jail population, church attendance, etc etc etc (whatever you can think of)).

    I challenge you to find 5 that can be measured and are consistently either good or bad when the president is Republic or Democrat. Let's limit it to the last 75 years.

    I am not a gamble person, but I am willing to bet that (generic) you will not be able to find 5. There may be 1 out there, but I seriously seriously doubt five.

    Does the President make a difference? OF COURSE. But to say that the US will end if (TRUMP or HARRIS) is elected is overblow.

    VP Harris can talk all she wants about forcing grocery stores to lower prices. Not going to happen.
    President Trump can talk all he wants about eliminating inflation. Not going to happen.

    The US has enough checks and balances that the goofiest of the campaign "promises" made by the candidates fortunately never happen.

    I'll give you one.

    Perception. It's all you need.

    Public perception determines who gets elected, who gets defeated and how a president is remembered.

    I don't disagree. As I said in a post a couple of years ago (at least I am consistent!! 555)

    https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/17486/inflation-s-not-so-bad/49?_=1724463001136

    But to get back to my previous question. Can anybody here name five measurable things (GDP, inflation, growth, etc etc) that consistently do better under a Republic (or Democrat) president? I don't think so.

    And another question, LOL. For those of you favoring President Trump including because of the economy, what are your expectations if he is elected?

    I think that at the end of November, inflation will be <3%, unemployment <4%, growth ~2.5 - 3%, stock market up 50% during President Biden (50% under President Trump also). So, what to do think the numbers would be under a President Trump at the end of 2025? Do you really think that there will be a significant change from what we have now?

    JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

      @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

      @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

      Deflection.

      I stand by my statement.

      I had a back and forth with Larry, who never was willing to answer so I will ask you the same question

      Come up with 5 indicators about the US (for example: GDP growth, inflation, stock market returns, crime statistics, school performance, trade deficit/surplus, patents per capita, border crossings, unemployment, jail population, church attendance, etc etc etc (whatever you can think of)).

      I challenge you to find 5 that can be measured and are consistently either good or bad when the president is Republic or Democrat. Let's limit it to the last 75 years.

      I am not a gamble person, but I am willing to bet that (generic) you will not be able to find 5. There may be 1 out there, but I seriously seriously doubt five.

      Does the President make a difference? OF COURSE. But to say that the US will end if (TRUMP or HARRIS) is elected is overblow.

      VP Harris can talk all she wants about forcing grocery stores to lower prices. Not going to happen.
      President Trump can talk all he wants about eliminating inflation. Not going to happen.

      The US has enough checks and balances that the goofiest of the campaign "promises" made by the candidates fortunately never happen.

      I'll give you one.

      Perception. It's all you need.

      Public perception determines who gets elected, who gets defeated and how a president is remembered.

      I don't disagree. As I said in a post a couple of years ago (at least I am consistent!! 555)

      https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/17486/inflation-s-not-so-bad/49?_=1724463001136

      But to get back to my previous question. Can anybody here name five measurable things (GDP, inflation, growth, etc etc) that consistently do better under a Republic (or Democrat) president? I don't think so.

      And another question, LOL. For those of you favoring President Trump including because of the economy, what are your expectations if he is elected?

      I think that at the end of November, inflation will be <3%, unemployment <4%, growth ~2.5 - 3%, stock market up 50% during President Biden (50% under President Trump also). So, what to do think the numbers would be under a President Trump at the end of 2025? Do you really think that there will be a significant change from what we have now?

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      JollyJ Offline
      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by Jolly
      #137

      @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

      @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

      @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

      @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

      Deflection.

      I stand by my statement.

      I had a back and forth with Larry, who never was willing to answer so I will ask you the same question

      Come up with 5 indicators about the US (for example: GDP growth, inflation, stock market returns, crime statistics, school performance, trade deficit/surplus, patents per capita, border crossings, unemployment, jail population, church attendance, etc etc etc (whatever you can think of)).

      I challenge you to find 5 that can be measured and are consistently either good or bad when the president is Republic or Democrat. Let's limit it to the last 75 years.

      I am not a gamble person, but I am willing to bet that (generic) you will not be able to find 5. There may be 1 out there, but I seriously seriously doubt five.

      Does the President make a difference? OF COURSE. But to say that the US will end if (TRUMP or HARRIS) is elected is overblow.

      VP Harris can talk all she wants about forcing grocery stores to lower prices. Not going to happen.
      President Trump can talk all he wants about eliminating inflation. Not going to happen.

      The US has enough checks and balances that the goofiest of the campaign "promises" made by the candidates fortunately never happen.

      I'll give you one.

      Perception. It's all you need.

      Public perception determines who gets elected, who gets defeated and how a president is remembered.

      I don't disagree. As I said in a post a couple of years ago (at least I am consistent!! 555)

      https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/17486/inflation-s-not-so-bad/49?_=1724463001136

      But to get back to my previous question. Can anybody here name five measurable things (GDP, inflation, growth, etc etc) that consistently do better under a Republic (or Democrat) president? I don't think so.

      And another question, LOL. For those of you favoring President Trump including because of the economy, what are your expectations if he is elected?

      I think that at the end of November, inflation will be <3%, unemployment <4%, growth ~2.5 - 3%, stock market up 50% during President Biden (50% under President Trump also). So, what to do think the numbers would be under a President Trump at the end of 2025? Do you really think that there will be a significant change from what we have now?

      I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

      Right now, the Dems are rerunning the basement strategy, trying to craft the perception that Kamala is a young, fresh, dynamic leader. They are aided and abetted by a fawning media, creating >90% favorable coverage, while simultaneously broadcasting >90% negative coverage for her opponent.

      She has almost no policy positions, and the Dems are trying to stack votes, particularly through their harvesting mail-in ballots and ground game, to drag her across the finish line before her deficiencies are well known.

      They are trying desperately to craft the public's perception of a person once ranked to the Left of Bernie Sanders and morph her into a competent moderate.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

        @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

        @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

        @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

        Deflection.

        I stand by my statement.

        I had a back and forth with Larry, who never was willing to answer so I will ask you the same question

        Come up with 5 indicators about the US (for example: GDP growth, inflation, stock market returns, crime statistics, school performance, trade deficit/surplus, patents per capita, border crossings, unemployment, jail population, church attendance, etc etc etc (whatever you can think of)).

        I challenge you to find 5 that can be measured and are consistently either good or bad when the president is Republic or Democrat. Let's limit it to the last 75 years.

        I am not a gamble person, but I am willing to bet that (generic) you will not be able to find 5. There may be 1 out there, but I seriously seriously doubt five.

        Does the President make a difference? OF COURSE. But to say that the US will end if (TRUMP or HARRIS) is elected is overblow.

        VP Harris can talk all she wants about forcing grocery stores to lower prices. Not going to happen.
        President Trump can talk all he wants about eliminating inflation. Not going to happen.

        The US has enough checks and balances that the goofiest of the campaign "promises" made by the candidates fortunately never happen.

        I'll give you one.

        Perception. It's all you need.

        Public perception determines who gets elected, who gets defeated and how a president is remembered.

        I don't disagree. As I said in a post a couple of years ago (at least I am consistent!! 555)

        https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/17486/inflation-s-not-so-bad/49?_=1724463001136

        But to get back to my previous question. Can anybody here name five measurable things (GDP, inflation, growth, etc etc) that consistently do better under a Republic (or Democrat) president? I don't think so.

        And another question, LOL. For those of you favoring President Trump including because of the economy, what are your expectations if he is elected?

        I think that at the end of November, inflation will be <3%, unemployment <4%, growth ~2.5 - 3%, stock market up 50% during President Biden (50% under President Trump also). So, what to do think the numbers would be under a President Trump at the end of 2025? Do you really think that there will be a significant change from what we have now?

        I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

        Right now, the Dems are rerunning the basement strategy, trying to craft the perception that Kamala is a young, fresh, dynamic leader. They are aided and abetted by a fawning media, creating >90% favorable coverage, while simultaneously broadcasting >90% negative coverage for her opponent.

        She has almost no policy positions, and the Dems are trying to stack votes, particularly through their harvesting mail-in ballots and ground game, to drag her across the finish line before her deficiencies are well known.

        They are trying desperately to craft the public's perception of a person once ranked to the Left of Bernie Sanders and morph her into a competent moderate.

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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #138

        @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

        She has explained almost no policy positions,

        FIFY. I doubt she has none.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #139

          One more for TG...

          Link to video

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

            @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

            @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

            @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

            Deflection.

            I stand by my statement.

            I had a back and forth with Larry, who never was willing to answer so I will ask you the same question

            Come up with 5 indicators about the US (for example: GDP growth, inflation, stock market returns, crime statistics, school performance, trade deficit/surplus, patents per capita, border crossings, unemployment, jail population, church attendance, etc etc etc (whatever you can think of)).

            I challenge you to find 5 that can be measured and are consistently either good or bad when the president is Republic or Democrat. Let's limit it to the last 75 years.

            I am not a gamble person, but I am willing to bet that (generic) you will not be able to find 5. There may be 1 out there, but I seriously seriously doubt five.

            Does the President make a difference? OF COURSE. But to say that the US will end if (TRUMP or HARRIS) is elected is overblow.

            VP Harris can talk all she wants about forcing grocery stores to lower prices. Not going to happen.
            President Trump can talk all he wants about eliminating inflation. Not going to happen.

            The US has enough checks and balances that the goofiest of the campaign "promises" made by the candidates fortunately never happen.

            I'll give you one.

            Perception. It's all you need.

            Public perception determines who gets elected, who gets defeated and how a president is remembered.

            I don't disagree. As I said in a post a couple of years ago (at least I am consistent!! 555)

            https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/17486/inflation-s-not-so-bad/49?_=1724463001136

            But to get back to my previous question. Can anybody here name five measurable things (GDP, inflation, growth, etc etc) that consistently do better under a Republic (or Democrat) president? I don't think so.

            And another question, LOL. For those of you favoring President Trump including because of the economy, what are your expectations if he is elected?

            I think that at the end of November, inflation will be <3%, unemployment <4%, growth ~2.5 - 3%, stock market up 50% during President Biden (50% under President Trump also). So, what to do think the numbers would be under a President Trump at the end of 2025? Do you really think that there will be a significant change from what we have now?

            I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

            Right now, the Dems are rerunning the basement strategy, trying to craft the perception that Kamala is a young, fresh, dynamic leader. They are aided and abetted by a fawning media, creating >90% favorable coverage, while simultaneously broadcasting >90% negative coverage for her opponent.

            She has almost no policy positions, and the Dems are trying to stack votes, particularly through their harvesting mail-in ballots and ground game, to drag her across the finish line before her deficiencies are well known.

            They are trying desperately to craft the public's perception of a person once ranked to the Left of Bernie Sanders and morph her into a competent moderate.

            taiwan_girlT Offline
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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by
            #140

            @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

            I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

            Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

            Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

              I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

              Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

              Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

              JollyJ Offline
              JollyJ Offline
              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #141

              @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

              @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

              I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

              Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

              Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

              Cliffs do not occur in a moment. There is always a road that leads to a cliff. You don't want somebody building the wrong road.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

                Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

                Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

                Cliffs do not occur in a moment. There is always a road that leads to a cliff. You don't want somebody building the wrong road.

                taiwan_girlT Offline
                taiwan_girlT Offline
                taiwan_girl
                wrote on last edited by
                #142

                @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

                Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

                Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

                Cliffs do not occur in a moment. There is always a road that leads to a cliff. You don't want somebody building the wrong road.

                Like quadrupling the money supply in 2020? LOL

                JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                  @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                  @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                  I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

                  Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

                  Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

                  Cliffs do not occur in a moment. There is always a road that leads to a cliff. You don't want somebody building the wrong road.

                  Like quadrupling the money supply in 2020? LOL

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #143

                  @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                  @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                  @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                  @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                  I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

                  Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

                  Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

                  Cliffs do not occur in a moment. There is always a road that leads to a cliff. You don't want somebody building the wrong road.

                  Like quadrupling the money supply in 2020? LOL

                  You mean like Biden running up the U.S. debt to equal the entire money supply of the world?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                  taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                    @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                    @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                    I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

                    Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

                    Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

                    Cliffs do not occur in a moment. There is always a road that leads to a cliff. You don't want somebody building the wrong road.

                    Like quadrupling the money supply in 2020? LOL

                    You mean like Biden running up the U.S. debt to equal the entire money supply of the world?

                    taiwan_girlT Offline
                    taiwan_girlT Offline
                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #144

                    @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                    @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                    @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                    I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

                    Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

                    Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

                    Cliffs do not occur in a moment. There is always a road that leads to a cliff. You don't want somebody building the wrong road.

                    Like quadrupling the money supply in 2020? LOL

                    You mean like Biden running up the U.S. debt to equal the entire money supply of the world?

                    Exactly. Just reinforces my point. Neither side is the savior and neither side is the devil.

                    I will ask this question again. Come November, inflation is <3%, unemployment is ~4%, GPD growth is about 2.5 % etc. What are the ideal numbers and how will President Trump achieve them?

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                      @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                      @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                      I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

                      Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

                      Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

                      Cliffs do not occur in a moment. There is always a road that leads to a cliff. You don't want somebody building the wrong road.

                      Like quadrupling the money supply in 2020? LOL

                      You mean like Biden running up the U.S. debt to equal the entire money supply of the world?

                      Exactly. Just reinforces my point. Neither side is the savior and neither side is the devil.

                      I will ask this question again. Come November, inflation is <3%, unemployment is ~4%, GPD growth is about 2.5 % etc. What are the ideal numbers and how will President Trump achieve them?

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #145

                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                      @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                      @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                      @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                      I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

                      Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

                      Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

                      Cliffs do not occur in a moment. There is always a road that leads to a cliff. You don't want somebody building the wrong road.

                      Like quadrupling the money supply in 2020? LOL

                      You mean like Biden running up the U.S. debt to equal the entire money supply of the world?

                      Exactly. Just reinforces my point. Neither side is the savior and neither side is the devil.

                      I will ask this question again. Come November, inflation is <3%, unemployment is ~4%, GPD growth is about 2.5 % etc. What are the ideal numbers and how will President Trump achieve them?

                      Do you think those numbers will be there?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

                        Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

                        Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

                        Cliffs do not occur in a moment. There is always a road that leads to a cliff. You don't want somebody building the wrong road.

                        Like quadrupling the money supply in 2020? LOL

                        You mean like Biden running up the U.S. debt to equal the entire money supply of the world?

                        Exactly. Just reinforces my point. Neither side is the savior and neither side is the devil.

                        I will ask this question again. Come November, inflation is <3%, unemployment is ~4%, GPD growth is about 2.5 % etc. What are the ideal numbers and how will President Trump achieve them?

                        Do you think those numbers will be there?

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                        @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                        I didn't need five. You don't need five. You only need one. Elections turn on perception.

                        Mostly agree. That just reinforces my thoughts/statements that it doesn't make sense to say that the sky is falling if Harris or Trump is elected. The sky won't fall.

                        Mentally, people may feel better if their preferred candidate wins (i.e. the cheerleader effect), but looking at overall measurable data, but in the "big picture" there is not a cliff that will happen to society.

                        Cliffs do not occur in a moment. There is always a road that leads to a cliff. You don't want somebody building the wrong road.

                        Like quadrupling the money supply in 2020? LOL

                        You mean like Biden running up the U.S. debt to equal the entire money supply of the world?

                        Exactly. Just reinforces my point. Neither side is the savior and neither side is the devil.

                        I will ask this question again. Come November, inflation is <3%, unemployment is ~4%, GPD growth is about 2.5 % etc. What are the ideal numbers and how will President Trump achieve them?

                        Do you think those numbers will be there?

                        Yes I do.

                        Inflation data here. I don't see the US inflation going up in the next three months and will probably go down.

                        https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/

                        Unemployment here. I don't see that having much change either.

                        https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm

                        GDP growth here. Don't think the #3 quarter will be much different from #1 and #2 quarter of 2024

                        https://www.bea.gov/data/gdp/gross-domestic-product

                        So, assuming that is the case, what are the ideal numbers in your mind and how will President Trump achieve them?

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                          I don't think in terms of charts, to be honest. I think in terms of how I live and what I can afford.

                          Case in point... I was building pickups online yesterday. Not that I really need on, my old 2011 is running pretty good, but I thought I would check. Base F-150 XL, 2WD with a Coyote V8. A single cab is $4OK. A double cab is $46K.

                          That's about as spartan as they come. Go to a higher trim level and you're going to come in at $60K. Go to a 4WD King Ranch in a 3/4 ton diesel and you can tear up $100K by the time you pay tax.

                          But back to that single cab work truck...If you're making $25/hr and you need a new truck for your one-horse business, how do afford it and buy groceries?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            I don't think in terms of charts, to be honest. I think in terms of how I live and what I can afford.

                            Case in point... I was building pickups online yesterday. Not that I really need on, my old 2011 is running pretty good, but I thought I would check. Base F-150 XL, 2WD with a Coyote V8. A single cab is $4OK. A double cab is $46K.

                            That's about as spartan as they come. Go to a higher trim level and you're going to come in at $60K. Go to a 4WD King Ranch in a 3/4 ton diesel and you can tear up $100K by the time you pay tax.

                            But back to that single cab work truck...If you're making $25/hr and you need a new truck for your one-horse business, how do afford it and buy groceries?

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                            @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                            I don't think in terms of charts, to be honest. I think in terms of how I live and what I can afford.

                            Case in point... I was building pickups online yesterday. Not that I really need on, my old 2011 is running pretty good, but I thought I would check. Base F-150 XL, 2WD with a Coyote V8. A single cab is $4OK. A double cab is $46K.

                            That's about as spartan as they come. Go to a higher trim level and you're going to come in at $60K. Go to a 4WD King Ranch in a 3/4 ton diesel and you can tear up $100K by the time you pay tax.

                            But back to that single cab work truck...If you're making $25/hr and you need a new truck for your one-horse business, how do afford it and buy groceries?

                            So what can (or will) president Trump do to make the truck affordable?

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                              Abso-fucking-lutley nothing. On the contary he’ll put tariffs on foreign sourced parts and make it more expensive.

                              But he resents the right people, so he’ll get 70MM votes.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                What will Trump do?

                                First, he'll quit dangling the Green money in front of the automakers. Secondly, I think he is going to be aggressive in promoting domestic vehicle manufacturing over imports. Third, I believe he'll probably ease some of the ridiculous Fed standards for fleet fuel efficiency. Part of what makes pickups so expensive, are the unnecessary gadgets they are saddled with, such as twin turbos, AFM, Stop/Start, 10-speed automatics, GDI, etc.

                                BTW, Trump got over 74M votes in 2020. I think he'll top 80M in 2024.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Your post made me think Jolly. It is interesting that the majority of top US made vehicles are from "foreign car brands" (Honda, Lexus, etc).

                                  https://www.cars.com/articles/2024-cars-com-american-made-index-which-cars-are-the-most-american-484903/

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                                    Well, I bought one. It's just a regular KJV with just one slight difference is that Exodus 20:17 says, "Thou shalt commit adultery."

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                                      Well, I bought one. It's just a regular KJV with just one slight difference is that Exodus 20:17 says, "Thou shalt commit adultery."

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                                      @Tom-K said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                                      Well, I bought one. It's just a regular KJV with just one slight difference is that Exodous 20:17 says, "Thou shalt commit adultery."

                                      Are any of the pages stuck together?

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Damn, thats a better joke than mine!

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          What will Trump do?

                                          First, he'll quit dangling the Green money in front of the automakers. Secondly, I think he is going to be aggressive in promoting domestic vehicle manufacturing over imports. Third, I believe he'll probably ease some of the ridiculous Fed standards for fleet fuel efficiency. Part of what makes pickups so expensive, are the unnecessary gadgets they are saddled with, such as twin turbos, AFM, Stop/Start, 10-speed automatics, GDI, etc.

                                          BTW, Trump got over 74M votes in 2020. I think he'll top 80M in 2024.

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                                          @Jolly said in Trump Sells $59.99 Bible:

                                          What will Trump do?

                                          First, he'll quit dangling the Green money in front of the automakers.

                                          Better not tell that to his good buddy, Elon.

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