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  • H Horace
    25 Mar 2024, 01:30

    I don’t think we’re allowed to think authoritarianism has any positive aspects.

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 14:00 last edited by
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    @Horace said in Shootings at Crocus City Hall in Moscow:

    I don’t think we’re allowed to think authoritarianism has any positive aspects.

    Yeah, having a suspect lose an eye during interrogation just screams 'due process'.

    How will we ever know whether he is guilty or not if they beat him to death getting a confession?

    I was only joking

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      Renauda
      wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 15:03 last edited by Renauda
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      The due process afforded them was the offer that the beatings and torture would stop when they admitted they were reporting to and in the pay of the Ukrainians. That they would only admit truthfully that they were fanatic Muslims engaged in jihad and Tajik citizens was not what the boss wanted to hear so their dismal fates were summarily sealed.

      Elbows up!

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 15:34 last edited by
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        I read that the guy who hacked the perp’s ear off is auctioning off the knife.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 17:21 last edited by Renauda
          #34

          It, the knife, will be a venerated holy relic someday.

          Elbows up!

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            Copper
            wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 17:29 last edited by
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            The ear paired with fava beans is available at an additional cost.

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            • G George K
              23 Mar 2024, 13:54

              Let the conspiracy theories begin:

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              George K
              wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 17:29 last edited by
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              @George-K said in Shootings at Crocus City Hall in Moscow:

              Let the conspiracy theories begin continue:

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • C Copper
                25 Mar 2024, 17:29

                The ear paired with fava beans is available at an additional cost.

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                Renauda
                wrote on 25 Mar 2024, 17:39 last edited by Renauda
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                Putin admits Islamic jihadist fanatics undertook the attack but insists Washington and Kyiv were supporting the terrorist action:

                https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/03/25/putin-says-radical-islamists-behind-moscow-concert-attack-a84625

                He’s sticking with his own conspiracy theory script.

                @Copper said in Shootings at Crocus City Hall in Moscow:

                The ear paired with fava beans is available at an additional cost.

                I think the OMON police dog enjoyed the ear without any garnishes or side dishes.

                Elbows up!

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 26 Mar 2024, 23:52 last edited by Renauda
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                  Seems that the Kremlin Pinocchio’s nose might be growing even longer. Lukashenko says the four terrorists attempted to enter but were stopped from entering Belarus.

                  Russian officials, including Putin himself, have since claimed the men were caught driving toward Ukraine.

                  But in comments that go against Moscow’s claims, Lukashenko suggested that the suspects had initially tried to cross into Belarus, where they were met by heightened security measures.

                  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/03/26/lukashenko-says-helped-russia-stop-concert-gunman-from-fleeing-to-belarus-a84636

                  Elbows up!

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                    George K
                    wrote on 27 Mar 2024, 00:00 last edited by
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                    Some of the conspiracy people are saying it was an inside job. They claim this because, supposedly, there was security only minutes away and it took forever for them to respond.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 27 Mar 2024, 00:33 last edited by
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                      Yes I have seen such. Many more are in the process of being concocted. Makes for great gossip.

                      Elbows up!

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                        George K
                        wrote on 3 Apr 2024, 00:24 last edited by
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                        Putin said that the warnings that the US sent about a possible terrorist attack were not specific.

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/04/02/us-warning-russia-isis-crocus/?utm_campaign=wp_for_you&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_personalizedforyou&utm_content=readinghistory__position2

                        More than two weeks before terrorists staged a bloody attack in the suburbs of Moscow, the U.S. government told Russian officials that Crocus City Hall, a popular concert venue, was a potential target, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

                        The high degree of specificity conveyed in the warning underscores Washington’s confidence that the Islamic State was preparing an attack that threatened large numbers of civilians, and it directly contradicts Moscow’s claims that the U.S. warnings were too general to help preempt the assault.

                        The U.S. identification of the Crocus concert hall as a potential target — a fact that has not been previously reported — raises new questions about why Russian authorities failed to take stronger measures to protect the venue, where gunmen killed more than 140 people and set fire to the building. A branch of the Islamic State has taken credit for the attack, the deadliest in Russia in 20 years. U.S. officials have publicly said the group, known as Islamic State-Khorasan, or ISIS-K, “bears sole responsibility,” but Russian President Vladimir Putin has tried to pin the blame on Ukraine.

                        The attack has further dented the image of strength and security that the Russian leader seeks to convey and exposed fundamental weaknesses in the nation’s security apparatus, which has been consumed by more than two years of war in Ukraine. Domestically, Putin’s operatives appear more concerned with silencing political dissent and opposition to the president than rooting out terrorist plots, according to analysts and observers of Russian politics.

                        The Russian leader himself publicly dismissed U.S. warnings just three days before the March 22 attack, calling them “outright blackmail” and attempts to “intimidate and destabilize our society.”

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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