Joe 'You ain't black' Biden

[Mik]

Not so fast. They're gonna eat him alive with this.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-racial-jungle-quote/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-racial-jungle-quote/

[Horace]

This is coming out just now?

Well I suppose when most of those motivated to find stuff like this have real jobs outside of the media and investigative reporting, those sorts of things can slip through the cracks indefinitely.

[jon-nyc]

No, its one of the things Kamala Harris beat him up for in a debate.

He was against forced bussing, not integration.

I think he remains so, and I'm against it too.

[jon-nyc]

If people want a President that was in favor of forced bussing in the 70s, they can write in Cornell West or something.

[Horace]

I remember the busing part in the Harris debates, but not the jungle quote, which seems more cancelable.

[Mik]

I'm against forced busing too, but would never have called it a racial jungle.

See that's the thing - you can't tear down history and ignore his.

[Axtremus]

@Mik said in Joe 'You ain't black' Biden:

I'm against forced busing too, but would never have called it a racial jungle.

See that's the thing - you can't tear down history and ignore his.

Who is tearing down history? The folks who whitewashes slavery from the text books in the South?

[Mik]

They misspelled Ax, but you get the point.

Well, Ax doesn't, but anyway.

[Horace]

Ax responds to points. Rainman and I have taken it upon ourselves to decipher what those points are. It's a mysterie.

[Larry]

@Axtremus said in Joe 'You ain't black' Biden:

@Mik said in Joe 'You ain't black' Biden:

I'm against forced busing too, but would never have called it a racial jungle.

See that's the thing - you can't tear down history and ignore his.

Who is tearing down history? The folks who whitewashes slavery from the text books in the South?

Have you ever even been to the South? No. So what the hell would you know what the textbooks in the South have in them - nothing. It wasnt the South that enslaved black people, it was Democrats.

[Rainman]

Bussing was another example of people with the best of intent, making a very bad decision. It's perhaps another example of the Supreme Court screwing things up, like Plessy vs. Ferguson.
Early 70's Boston White Flight is the most notable example that comes to mind. Liberal city, everyone is in agreement, then everyone secretly moves to the suburbs as NIMBY takes hold.

Maybe it's a good thing. People will excuse Biden because his statement was decades ago, and at some point we are all going to need to let things we thought and said decades ago to not be held against us. I won't hold it against him, I have plenty more to hold against him that is much more contemporary.

[Jolly]

I agreed with Biden on the bussing issue. Sitting a black child next to a white child does not make the black child smarter.

Secondly, it destroys community schools. My daughter has taught in inner city schools for over a decade...In successful schools and failing schools. Successful schools have two things in common: 1) parental involvement, and 2) a strong sense of community.

Third, it takes money out of the classroom for no productive reason.

No, there are many thing to attack Biden with, but this ain't one of them.

[Mik]

Yep. Community involvement is absolutely crucial.

[taiwan_girl]

@Jolly said in Joe 'You ain't black' Biden:

Successful schools have two things in common: 1) parental involvement, and 2) a strong sense of community.

Agree with you 100%.

The #1 I think is even more important than your #2.