Dead Black Males
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Horace said, "The progress of western civilization is largely due to our political advancements which allowed for our economic advancements which led to our technological advancements."
That's very interesting, and I don't think you were being sarcastic.
I would be interested in how you came to decide the taxonomy or hierarchy, or maybe simply cause-effect.I would have listed technological advancements first (e.g., telescope), then political, then economic.
There's also a good chance I was reading more or less than you intended. But you do tend to state things which I find very interesting to contemplate. It just depends on whether you were being trite, or very serious I guess.
@Rainman said in Dead Black Males:
Horace said, "The progress of western civilization is largely due to our political advancements which allowed for our economic advancements which led to our technological advancements."
That's very interesting, and I don't think you were being sarcastic.
I would be interested in how you came to decide the taxonomy or hierarchy, or maybe simply cause-effect.I would have listed technological advancements first (e.g., telescope), then political, then economic.
There's also a good chance I was reading more or less than you intended. But you do tend to state things which I find very interesting to contemplate. It just depends on whether you were being trite, or very serious I guess.
I'm sure it's a big stew of causality but it would seem that meritocratic markets, allowed for by politics, are a necessary precondition to the explosion of efficiency technology has given us.
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@Mik said in Dead Black Males:
You continue to miss the point. What do you think is happening when we are preached to on the evil of western culture?
Then the author missed his point with me. Lol
That is not what I understood from the article
@taiwan_girl said in Dead Black Males:
@Mik said in Dead Black Males:
You continue to miss the point. What do you think is happening when we are preached to on the evil of western culture?
Then the author missed his point with me. Lol
That is not what I understood from the article
Why would you blame the author for something that was your fault?
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@xenon said in Dead Black Males:
@Horace said in Dead Black Males:
The progress of western civilization is largely due to our political advancements which allowed for our economic advancements which led to our technological advancements. Without the political part of it we'd still all be stuck in what would seem uncivilized times. I bet Xenon has some good thoughts on this sort of thing.
I wasn't being sarcastic, it seems like the sort of thing you'd have some well developed thoughts about.
@Horace said in Dead Black Males:
@xenon said in Dead Black Males:
@Horace said in Dead Black Males:
The progress of western civilization is largely due to our political advancements which allowed for our economic advancements which led to our technological advancements. Without the political part of it we'd still all be stuck in what would seem uncivilized times. I bet Xenon has some good thoughts on this sort of thing.
I wasn't being sarcastic, it seems like the sort of thing you'd have some well developed thoughts about.
Note however he neither confirmed nor denied the charge of assholery.
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@Rainman said in Dead Black Males:
Horace said, "The progress of western civilization is largely due to our political advancements which allowed for our economic advancements which led to our technological advancements."
That's very interesting, and I don't think you were being sarcastic.
I would be interested in how you came to decide the taxonomy or hierarchy, or maybe simply cause-effect.I would have listed technological advancements first (e.g., telescope), then political, then economic.
There's also a good chance I was reading more or less than you intended. But you do tend to state things which I find very interesting to contemplate. It just depends on whether you were being trite, or very serious I guess.
I'm sure it's a big stew of causality but it would seem that meritocratic markets, allowed for by politics, are a necessary precondition to the explosion of efficiency technology has given us.
@Horace said in Dead Black Males:
@Rainman said in Dead Black Males:
Horace said, "The progress of western civilization is largely due to our political advancements which allowed for our economic advancements which led to our technological advancements."
That's very interesting, and I don't think you were being sarcastic.
I would be interested in how you came to decide the taxonomy or hierarchy, or maybe simply cause-effect.I would have listed technological advancements first (e.g., telescope), then political, then economic.
There's also a good chance I was reading more or less than you intended. But you do tend to state things which I find very interesting to contemplate. It just depends on whether you were being trite, or very serious I guess.
I'm sure it's a big stew of causality but it would seem that meritocratic markets, allowed for by politics, are a necessary precondition to the explosion of efficiency technology has given us.
My first thought was that the causality was reversed. Technological->Economic->political (as in let's say planting seeds/agriculture->surplus food->administration/stratification of society.
But it keeps going around in circles. Having a stratified society and administration is the precondition for more complicated inventions to come about.
While economic and technological progress can be rapid, politics takes time to develop.
As for the race and gender of who drove the progress? That's a bit of an asinine discussion. I guess it's interesting that almost all human societies decided to organize themselves primarily as a patriarchy up until very recently. That's not a white thing.
As for white - white countries invented industrialization and the constructs of a modern government first. So the people who specifically invented them were white. That's not much of an insight or a remarkable thing to say.
