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    Mik
    wrote on 16 Mar 2024, 15:15 last edited by
    #1

    https://www.wcpo.com/new-chick-fil-a-won-t-have-cashiers-drive-thru-or-dining-room

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 16 Mar 2024, 15:41 last edited by
      #2

      Seems like a good evolution of the business model. Though there will always be a market for those who want to give their order to a cashier and hand over a bill.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 01:11 last edited by
        #3

        That'll certainly help the mental health epidemic.

        Please love yourself.

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        • A Aqua Letifer
          17 Mar 2024, 01:11

          That'll certainly help the mental health epidemic.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 11:37 last edited by
          #4

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

          That'll certainly help the mental health epidemic.

          I absolutely hate this trend towards depersonaling everything. We're isolated enough already.

          I was only joking

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 12:48 last edited by
            #5
            1. Try religions. They make various concepts of supernatural beings love or care about you personally.

            2. Have lots of money, then you can afford bespoke services with lots of customized-just-for-you personal touches.

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            • A Axtremus
              17 Mar 2024, 12:48
              1. Try religions. They make various concepts of supernatural beings love or care about you personally.

              2. Have lots of money, then you can afford bespoke services with lots of customized-just-for-you personal touches.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 12:50 last edited by
              #6

              @Axtremus said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

              1. Try religions. They make various concepts of supernatural beings love or care about you personally.

              2. Have lots of money, then you can afford bespoke services with lots of customized-just-for-you personal touches.

              For thousands of years humanity has succeeded due to interpersonal communication. Now we've got machines to do that for us. What could possibly go wrong?

              I was only joking

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              • D Doctor Phibes
                17 Mar 2024, 12:50

                @Axtremus said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                1. Try religions. They make various concepts of supernatural beings love or care about you personally.

                2. Have lots of money, then you can afford bespoke services with lots of customized-just-for-you personal touches.

                For thousands of years humanity has succeeded due to interpersonal communication. Now we've got machines to do that for us. What could possibly go wrong?

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 13:26 last edited by
                #7

                @Doctor-Phibes said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                For thousands of years humanity has succeeded due to interpersonal communication. Now we've got machines to do that for us. What could possibly go wrong?

                Have the last few thousand years been "right"? Given "interpersonal communication" as it were, the human condition in the last few millennia was quite challenging by modern standards, no?

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  17 Mar 2024, 11:37

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                  That'll certainly help the mental health epidemic.

                  I absolutely hate this trend towards depersonaling everything. We're isolated enough already.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 13:39 last edited by
                  #8

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                  That'll certainly help the mental health epidemic.

                  I absolutely hate this trend towards depersonaling everything. We're isolated enough already.

                  ❤️

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • A Axtremus
                    17 Mar 2024, 13:26

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                    For thousands of years humanity has succeeded due to interpersonal communication. Now we've got machines to do that for us. What could possibly go wrong?

                    Have the last few thousand years been "right"? Given "interpersonal communication" as it were, the human condition in the last few millennia was quite challenging by modern standards, no?

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 14:01 last edited by
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                    @Axtremus said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                    For thousands of years humanity has succeeded due to interpersonal communication. Now we've got machines to do that for us. What could possibly go wrong?

                    Have the last few thousand years been "right"? Given "interpersonal communication" as it were, the human condition in the last few millennia was quite challenging by modern standards, no?

                    Speaking of connection, is there any way to block moderators? Thanks.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • D Doctor Phibes
                      17 Mar 2024, 11:37

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                      That'll certainly help the mental health epidemic.

                      I absolutely hate this trend towards depersonaling everything. We're isolated enough already.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 14:02 last edited by
                      #10

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                      That'll certainly help the mental health epidemic.

                      I absolutely hate this trend towards depersonaling everything. We're isolated enough already.

                      People aren't happier in those places. It's not good for us.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 14:24 last edited by
                        #11

                        No. We are social animals.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • A Aqua Letifer
                          17 Mar 2024, 14:01

                          @Axtremus said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                          For thousands of years humanity has succeeded due to interpersonal communication. Now we've got machines to do that for us. What could possibly go wrong?

                          Have the last few thousand years been "right"? Given "interpersonal communication" as it were, the human condition in the last few millennia was quite challenging by modern standards, no?

                          Speaking of connection, is there any way to block moderators? Thanks.

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 15:17 last edited by
                          #12

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                          Speaking of connection, is there any way to block moderators? Thanks.

                          You cannot block admins and moderators.

                          But if your question is specific to 'ol Ax, see this: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/28840/ax-admin-vs-axtremus?_=1710643048706

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 15:25 last edited by
                            #13

                            I don’t like blocking.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • A Axtremus
                              17 Mar 2024, 15:17

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                              Speaking of connection, is there any way to block moderators? Thanks.

                              You cannot block admins and moderators.

                              But if your question is specific to 'ol Ax, see this: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/28840/ax-admin-vs-axtremus?_=1710643048706

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 16:01 last edited by
                              #14

                              @Axtremus said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                              Speaking of connection, is there any way to block moderators? Thanks.

                              You cannot block admins and moderators.

                              But if your question is specific to 'ol Ax, see this: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/28840/ax-admin-vs-axtremus?_=1710643048706

                              No, it's specific to you.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • M Mik
                                17 Mar 2024, 15:25

                                I don’t like blocking.

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 16:06 last edited by
                                #15

                                @Mik said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                I don’t like blocking.

                                I don't either as a baseline—I don't want to live in an echo chamber. But when someone continues to act like a troll it shouldn't be surprising they in turn get treated as such.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 16:36 last edited by
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                                  Funny, didn't we have a conversation last week about how technology has improved and increased "interpersonal communication"? Cell phones now have adult children and their parents in closer contact than they have been in decades. At the same time, cell phones are taking away the ability to say "S'up?!" to a teenager standing behind a register ringing up our chicken nuggets. Now, while there are a few of us that I know will actually engage in conversation with bank tellers, cashiers, servers, etc... How many people really do? My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.

                                  My concern about this is the removal of the jobs. We've touched on the effect that AI and automation will have on employment. Touched on the economic challenges posed both individually and collectively. My concern is more about the mental well-being of society. Not because they aren't having interactions and communication, but the loss of purpose, loss of dignity, and loss of personal drive. Working as a cashier at a fast food joint may not seem like that much of a loss for most of us, but for a young person it can affect their learning work habits, commitment, how to function and relate in a team environment, and more.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                                    17 Mar 2024, 16:36

                                    Funny, didn't we have a conversation last week about how technology has improved and increased "interpersonal communication"? Cell phones now have adult children and their parents in closer contact than they have been in decades. At the same time, cell phones are taking away the ability to say "S'up?!" to a teenager standing behind a register ringing up our chicken nuggets. Now, while there are a few of us that I know will actually engage in conversation with bank tellers, cashiers, servers, etc... How many people really do? My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.

                                    My concern about this is the removal of the jobs. We've touched on the effect that AI and automation will have on employment. Touched on the economic challenges posed both individually and collectively. My concern is more about the mental well-being of society. Not because they aren't having interactions and communication, but the loss of purpose, loss of dignity, and loss of personal drive. Working as a cashier at a fast food joint may not seem like that much of a loss for most of us, but for a young person it can affect their learning work habits, commitment, how to function and relate in a team environment, and more.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 16:42 last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                    Funny, didn't we have a conversation last week about how technology has improved and increased "interpersonal communication"?

                                    No, we said they'd improved communication between parents and children. You only have to look at a long line of teenagers all sitting together in the mall, texting, to question whether the improvement is there across the board.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                                      17 Mar 2024, 16:36

                                      Funny, didn't we have a conversation last week about how technology has improved and increased "interpersonal communication"? Cell phones now have adult children and their parents in closer contact than they have been in decades. At the same time, cell phones are taking away the ability to say "S'up?!" to a teenager standing behind a register ringing up our chicken nuggets. Now, while there are a few of us that I know will actually engage in conversation with bank tellers, cashiers, servers, etc... How many people really do? My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.

                                      My concern about this is the removal of the jobs. We've touched on the effect that AI and automation will have on employment. Touched on the economic challenges posed both individually and collectively. My concern is more about the mental well-being of society. Not because they aren't having interactions and communication, but the loss of purpose, loss of dignity, and loss of personal drive. Working as a cashier at a fast food joint may not seem like that much of a loss for most of us, but for a young person it can affect their learning work habits, commitment, how to function and relate in a team environment, and more.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 16:46 last edited by
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                      We've touched on the effect that AI and automation will have on employment.

                                      Does have on employment. It's already well started.

                                      My concern is more about the mental well-being of society. Not because they aren't having interactions and communication, but the loss of purpose, loss of dignity, and loss of personal drive. Working as a cashier at a fast food joint may not seem like that much of a loss for most of us, but for a young person it can affect their learning work habits, commitment, how to function and relate in a team environment, and more.

                                      1. We already know that autonomy - community = narcissism and sociopathy. So your worry is well-founded.
                                      2. The same can be said of kids who grow up not learning the difference between learning an instrument and asking AI to make some bullshit for you.

                                      We're still grappling with the fact that exercise is now a choice, and that it's better for us if we choose it. That's still a hard lesson to learn.

                                      But now we're confronted with weird new choices. For example, we can now live without expressing ourselves, having rituals or living among a community. We aren't supposed to do that and the choice is making us crazy.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                                        17 Mar 2024, 16:36

                                        Funny, didn't we have a conversation last week about how technology has improved and increased "interpersonal communication"? Cell phones now have adult children and their parents in closer contact than they have been in decades. At the same time, cell phones are taking away the ability to say "S'up?!" to a teenager standing behind a register ringing up our chicken nuggets. Now, while there are a few of us that I know will actually engage in conversation with bank tellers, cashiers, servers, etc... How many people really do? My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.

                                        My concern about this is the removal of the jobs. We've touched on the effect that AI and automation will have on employment. Touched on the economic challenges posed both individually and collectively. My concern is more about the mental well-being of society. Not because they aren't having interactions and communication, but the loss of purpose, loss of dignity, and loss of personal drive. Working as a cashier at a fast food joint may not seem like that much of a loss for most of us, but for a young person it can affect their learning work habits, commitment, how to function and relate in a team environment, and more.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 17:26 last edited by
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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                        My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.

                                        I do. My wife is worse. Before dinner is over, my wife will know the waiter's kids's names...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly
                                          17 Mar 2024, 17:26

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                          My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.

                                          I do. My wife is worse. Before dinner is over, my wife will know the waiter's kids's names...

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 17 Mar 2024, 17:36 last edited by
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                                          @Jolly said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:

                                          My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.

                                          I do. My wife is worse. Before dinner is over, my wife will know the waiter's kids's names...

                                          Waiters at restaurants is kind of a different feel.

                                          The Brad

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