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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #1

    https://jonathanturley.org/2020/08/09/northwestern-students-demand-abolition-of-greek-system-as-embedded-with-racism-sexism-homophobia-transphobia-and-classism/

    My alma mater....

    When I went I was a proud member of ΓΔΙ.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
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      #2

      Watch universities do this but carve out an exception for black fraternities through some slight of language.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        Aqua Letifer
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        #3

        They'll just go underground again. Which, cool.

        Please love yourself.

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
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          #4

          My favorite student organization was The Shifters at Wittenberg. They had no purpose other than to be secret.

          Never was a frat guy, but knew many who were. I see no problem.

          But by this logic should they not be calling for the end of the Congressional Black Caucus? Intellectual consistency is a hard taskmaster.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by Mik
            #5

            I think what might prevent this is that many, if not most, donors to alma maters are Greeks. Abolish their houses and see their contributions dry up.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
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              #6

              You'd think but donor action hasn't stopped any of the other excesses.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
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                #7

                I think Harvard already shadow-banned the famed houses. Not fraternities, but like skull & bones. Several years ago.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • MikM Mik

                  My favorite student organization was The Shifters at Wittenberg. They had no purpose other than to be secret.

                  Never was a frat guy, but knew many who were. I see no problem.

                  But by this logic should they not be calling for the end of the Congressional Black Caucus? Intellectual consistency is a hard taskmaster.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
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                  @Mik said in Goodbye Greeks:

                  Never was a frat guy,

                  By the way ΓΔΙ - Gamma Delta Iota...

                  GDI: "God Damned Independent."

                  I actually had that ΓΔΙ decal on the back window of my car.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • Catseye3C Offline
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                    Catseye3
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                    #9

                    Last sentence of the article: "Rather than force all other parts of the university to confirm to the views of these opposing students, the university should allow them to create associations that appeal to their own values and interests."

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • MikM Mik

                      My favorite student organization was The Shifters at Wittenberg. They had no purpose other than to be secret.

                      Never was a frat guy, but knew many who were. I see no problem.

                      But by this logic should they not be calling for the end of the Congressional Black Caucus? Intellectual consistency is a hard taskmaster.

                      Catseye3C Offline
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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @Mik said in Goodbye Greeks:

                      But by this logic should they not be calling for the end of the Congressional Black Caucus?

                      No, because shut up.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Mik said in Goodbye Greeks:

                        Never was a frat guy,

                        By the way ΓΔΙ - Gamma Delta Iota...

                        GDI: "God Damned Independent."

                        I actually had that ΓΔΙ decal on the back window of my car.

                        MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by Mik
                        #11

                        @George-K said in Goodbye Greeks:

                        @Mik said in Goodbye Greeks:

                        Never was a frat guy,

                        By the way ΓΔΙ - Gamma Delta Iota...

                        GDI: "God Damned Independent."

                        I actually had that ΓΔΙ decal on the back window of my car.

                        We would SO have hung out at that age. 😆

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                          Last sentence of the article: "Rather than force all other parts of the university to confirm to the views of these opposing students, the university should allow them to create associations that appeal to their own values and interests."

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @Catseye3 said in Goodbye Greeks:

                          Last sentence of the article: "Rather than force all other parts of the university to confirm to the views of these opposing students, the university should allow them to create associations that appeal to their own values and interests."

                          Well, that's just TUrley being reasonable.

                          I remember that there were some houses that catered to certain groups - a white guy like Jon me couldn't join a house that was primarily Jewish.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Loki
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                            #13

                            I just wonder where the kids are going to party.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Catseye3 said in Goodbye Greeks:

                              Last sentence of the article: "Rather than force all other parts of the university to confirm to the views of these opposing students, the university should allow them to create associations that appeal to their own values and interests."

                              Well, that's just TUrley being reasonable.

                              I remember that there were some houses that catered to certain groups - a white guy like Jon me couldn't join a house that was primarily Jewish.

                              jon-nycJ Offline
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                              jon-nyc
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                              @George-K said in Goodbye Greeks:

                              @Catseye3 said in Goodbye Greeks:

                              Last sentence of the article: "Rather than force all other parts of the university to confirm to the views of these opposing students, the university should allow them to create associations that appeal to their own values and interests."

                              Well, that's just TUrley being reasonable.

                              I remember that there were some houses that catered to certain groups - a white guy like Jon me couldn't join a house that was primarily Jewish.

                              We had a couple of black fraternities. The most popular, which housed many basketball and football players, actually branded their pledges. Legit branding, with a hot iron.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @George-K said in Goodbye Greeks:

                                @Catseye3 said in Goodbye Greeks:

                                Last sentence of the article: "Rather than force all other parts of the university to confirm to the views of these opposing students, the university should allow them to create associations that appeal to their own values and interests."

                                Well, that's just TUrley being reasonable.

                                I remember that there were some houses that catered to certain groups - a white guy like Jon me couldn't join a house that was primarily Jewish.

                                We had a couple of black fraternities. The most popular, which housed many basketball and football players, actually branded their pledges. Legit branding, with a hot iron.

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                                Loki
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                                @jon-nyc said in Goodbye Greeks:

                                @George-K said in Goodbye Greeks:

                                @Catseye3 said in Goodbye Greeks:

                                Last sentence of the article: "Rather than force all other parts of the university to confirm to the views of these opposing students, the university should allow them to create associations that appeal to their own values and interests."

                                Well, that's just TUrley being reasonable.

                                I remember that there were some houses that catered to certain groups - a white guy like Jon me couldn't join a house that was primarily Jewish.

                                We had a couple of black fraternities. The most popular, which housed many basketball and football players, actually branded their pledges. Legit branding, with a hot iron.

                                Tattoos are more eco friendly and represent societal progress.

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                                  Catseye3
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                                  Question. Aside from a whole boatload of grievances, what are all these oppressed minorities contributing, that entitles them to, well, whatever it is they're demanding?

                                  It's like if I say to you, "Give me all your money." And you say no, and I say, "Give me all your money, cracker," and you say, "Why should I give you my money?" And I say, "Because you have money and I don't, and that's all that counts. Why you keep asking stupid questions?"

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                    Question. Aside from a whole boatload of grievances, what are all these oppressed minorities contributing, that entitles them to, well, whatever it is they're demanding?

                                    It's like if I say to you, "Give me all your money." And you say no, and I say, "Give me all your money, cracker," and you say, "Why should I give you my money?" And I say, "Because you have money and I don't, and that's all that counts. Why you keep asking stupid questions?"

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                                    Loki
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                                    @Catseye3 said in Goodbye Greeks:

                                    Question. Aside from a whole boatload of grievances, what are all these oppressed minorities contributing, that entitles them to, well, whatever it is they're demanding?

                                    It's like if I say to you, "Give me all your money." And you say no, and I say, "Give me all your money, cracker," and you say, "Why should I give you my money?" And I say, "Because you have money and I don't, and that's all that counts. Why you keep asking stupid questions?"

                                    The only just way to address reparations is to grant everything to those with the best aggrieved narratives. Jesus Cats can’t you learn. Oh wait I can’t say that.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @George-K said in Goodbye Greeks:

                                      @Catseye3 said in Goodbye Greeks:

                                      Last sentence of the article: "Rather than force all other parts of the university to confirm to the views of these opposing students, the university should allow them to create associations that appeal to their own values and interests."

                                      Well, that's just TUrley being reasonable.

                                      I remember that there were some houses that catered to certain groups - a white guy like Jon me couldn't join a house that was primarily Jewish.

                                      We had a couple of black fraternities. The most popular, which housed many basketball and football players, actually branded their pledges. Legit branding, with a hot iron.

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                                      Horace
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Goodbye Greeks:

                                      @George-K said in Goodbye Greeks:

                                      @Catseye3 said in Goodbye Greeks:

                                      Last sentence of the article: "Rather than force all other parts of the university to confirm to the views of these opposing students, the university should allow them to create associations that appeal to their own values and interests."

                                      Well, that's just TUrley being reasonable.

                                      I remember that there were some houses that catered to certain groups - a white guy like Jon me couldn't join a house that was primarily Jewish.

                                      We had a couple of black fraternities. The most popular, which housed many basketball and football players, actually branded their pledges. Legit branding, with a hot iron.

                                      The Packers had a middle linebacker named Brad Jones with a brand on his upper arm. According to his wikipedia page, he was in the Omega Psi Phi fraternity.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #19

                                        That was them.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                          Question. Aside from a whole boatload of grievances, what are all these oppressed minorities contributing, that entitles them to, well, whatever it is they're demanding?

                                          It's like if I say to you, "Give me all your money." And you say no, and I say, "Give me all your money, cracker," and you say, "Why should I give you my money?" And I say, "Because you have money and I don't, and that's all that counts. Why you keep asking stupid questions?"

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @Catseye3 said in Goodbye Greeks:

                                          Question. Aside from a whole boatload of grievances, what are all these oppressed minorities contributing, that entitles them to, well, whatever it is they're demanding?

                                          It's like if I say to you, "Give me all your money." And you say no, and I say, "Give me all your money, cracker," and you say, "Why should I give you my money?" And I say, "Because you have money and I don't, and that's all that counts. Why you keep asking stupid questions?"

                                          For gawd sake's, hush up...You start telling the Truth and ain't no tellin' what might happen!

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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