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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
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    #3

    From the Freebeacon article:

    The records reveal that KORE is 14 percent co-owned by Do-Fluoride New Materials (DFD), a Chinese battery manufacturer led by Chinese Communist Party official Li Shijiang. One of KORE’s directors is Li Shijiang’s daughter, Li Lingyun, who also serves as vice chair of DFD and as vice president of China’s state-supervised Patent Protection Association.

    That’s it? One Chinese company with a decidedly minority stake, and no reporting on what position that “Li Shijiang” occupies in the CCP?

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      No, this is it:

      The Department of Energy confirmed to the Free Beacon that DFD will help KORE build the Arizona facility by providing intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        No, this is it:

        The Department of Energy confirmed to the Free Beacon that DFD will help KORE build the Arizona facility by providing intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities.

        AxtremusA Away
        AxtremusA Away
        Axtremus
        wrote on last edited by
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        @George-K said in Battery Plant in Arizona:

        No, this is it:

        “The Department of Energy confirmed to the Free Beacon that DFD will help KORE build the Arizona facility by providing intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities.”

        So DFD (the Chinese company) will provide “intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities” to KORE (an American company). Is that really something patriotic Americans want to complain about?

        We get intellectual priorities, R&D, and engineering capabilities, and we want to complain about getting the good stuff?

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @George-K said in Battery Plant in Arizona:

          No, this is it:

          “The Department of Energy confirmed to the Free Beacon that DFD will help KORE build the Arizona facility by providing intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities.”

          So DFD (the Chinese company) will provide “intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities” to KORE (an American company). Is that really something patriotic Americans want to complain about?

          We get intellectual priorities, R&D, and engineering capabilities, and we want to complain about getting the good stuff?

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          George K
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          #6

          @Axtremus said in Battery Plant in Arizona:

          So DFD (the Chinese company) will provide “intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities” to KORE (an American company). Is that really something patriotic Americans want to complain about?

          You misspelled “worry. “

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            @George-K said in Battery Plant in Arizona:

            No, this is it:

            “The Department of Energy confirmed to the Free Beacon that DFD will help KORE build the Arizona facility by providing intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities.”

            So DFD (the Chinese company) will provide “intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities” to KORE (an American company). Is that really something patriotic Americans want to complain about?

            We get intellectual priorities, R&D, and engineering capabilities, and we want to complain about getting the good stuff?

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
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            @Axtremus said in Battery Plant in Arizona:

            @George-K said in Battery Plant in Arizona:

            No, this is it:

            “The Department of Energy confirmed to the Free Beacon that DFD will help KORE build the Arizona facility by providing intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities.”

            So DFD (the Chinese company) will provide “intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities” to KORE (an American company). Is that really something patriotic Americans want to complain about?

            We get intellectual priorities, R&D, and engineering capabilities, and we want to complain about getting the good stuff?

            If not for industrial espionage and reverse engineering, the Chinese wouldn't be a lot better technologically speaking, than the NORKs.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG George K

              @Axtremus said in Battery Plant in Arizona:

              So DFD (the Chinese company) will provide “intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities” to KORE (an American company). Is that really something patriotic Americans want to complain about?

              You misspelled “worry. “

              AxtremusA Away
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              Axtremus
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              @George-K said in Battery Plant in Arizona:

              @Axtremus said in Battery Plant in Arizona:

              So DFD (the Chinese company) will provide “intellectual property, research and development, and engineering capabilities” to KORE (an American company). Is that really something patriotic Americans want to complain about?

              You misspelled “worry. “

              OK, explain to me what is to "worry" about this.
              It's not like the Huawei situation where we get opaque boxes of Chinese tech to plop into our communications networks and we may not know exactly what's in those boxes.
              With this KORE situation, we get "intellectual property, R&D, and engineering capabilities" -- not opaque boxes -- to build our boxes with our people overlooking production. What is it that patriotic Americans should worry about in a situation like this?

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                Chinese IP in our boxes. Not opaque boxes, transparent boxes with Chinese IP.

                What could possibly go wrong?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  #10

                  Normally I apply the assumption of good intent. Not here.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Normally I apply the assumption of good intent. Not here.

                    George KG Offline
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                    @Mik said in Battery Plant in Arizona:

                    Normally I apply the assumption of good intent. Not here.

                    Exactly. When dealing with Chyna always look for the ulterior motive.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      Chinese IP in our boxes. Not opaque boxes, transparent boxes with Chinese IP.

                      What could possibly go wrong?

                      AxtremusA Away
                      AxtremusA Away
                      Axtremus
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      @George-K said in Battery Plant in Arizona:

                      Chinese IP in our boxes. Not opaque boxes, transparent boxes with Chinese IP.

                      What could possibly go wrong?

                      Yeah, that’s what I hope you can tell me — what do you think could possibly go wrong?

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