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Born in the USA

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  • George KG George K

    @taiwan_girl that's fascinating.

    I still can't understand a word he's singing, other than "Born in the USA."

    Are you familiar with the post-recording work that was done on "Sounds of Silence?" When Simon and Garfunkel recorded it, it was basically a folk song. The producer, whose name escapes me, added the electric guitar and drum track later.

    The story may be apocryphal, but supposedly, S&G had no idea what had been done to their song until they heard it on the radio.

    Link to video

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    taiwan_girl
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    #15

    @George-K Interesting!!! Thanks.

    FYI, lyrics for the Born in the USA

    **Born down in a dead man town
    The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
    You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
    Till you spend half your life just covering up

    Born in the U. S. A, I was born in the U. S. A
    I was born in the U. S. A, born in the U. S. A

    Got in a little hometown jam
    So they put a rifle in my hand
    Sent me off to a foreign land
    To go and kill the yellow man

    Born in the U. S. A...

    Come back home to the refinery
    Hiring man said son if it was up to me
    Went down to see my V. A. Man
    He said son, don't you understand

    I had a brother at Khe Sahn
    Fighting off the Viet Cong
    They're still there, he's all gone

    He had a woman he loved in Saigon
    I got a picture of him in her arms now

    Down in the shadow of the penitentiary
    Out by the gas fires of the refinery
    I'm ten years burning down the road
    Nowhere to run aint got nowhere to go

    Born in the U. S. A, I was born in the U. S. A
    Born in the U. S. A, I'm a long gone daddy in the U. S. A
    Born in the U. S. A., born in the U. S. A
    Born in the U. S. A, I'm a cool rocking daddy in the U. S. A**

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    • George KG George K

      @taiwan_girl that's fascinating.

      I still can't understand a word he's singing, other than "Born in the USA."

      Are you familiar with the post-recording work that was done on "Sounds of Silence?" When Simon and Garfunkel recorded it, it was basically a folk song. The producer, whose name escapes me, added the electric guitar and drum track later.

      The story may be apocryphal, but supposedly, S&G had no idea what had been done to their song until they heard it on the radio.

      Link to video

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #16

      @George-K said in Born in the USA:

      I still can't understand a word he's singing, other than "Born in the USA."

      Link to video

      Please love yourself.

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        Loki
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        #17

        https://www.npr.org/2019/03/26/706566556/bruce-springsteen-born-in-the-usa-american-anthem

        An interpretation of what the song means.

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          #18

          "The pride was in the chorus," Springsteen said to host Terry Gross in a 2005 interview. "In my songs, the spiritual part, the hope part, is in the choruses. The blues and your daily realities are in the details of the verses."

          Yep, pretty obvious if you look at his songs.

          Please love yourself.

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            Best summation of his work.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              Best summation of his work.

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              Loki
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              #20

              @Mik said in Born in the USA:

              Best summation of his work.

              He never interested me enough to think about it too much. I respect his work and life achievement, it just doesn’t float my boat.

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                Horace
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                #21

                His music is populist garbage

                Education is extremely important.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Mik
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                  That cannot be. He was the future of rock n roll.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    That cannot be. He was the future of rock n roll.

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                    @Mik said in Born in the USA:

                    That cannot be. He was the future of rock n roll.

                    I am mentally scrolling through my heroes of music and trying to think of who the white ones from America are. I am coming up short in the moment.

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                      #24

                      alt text

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #25

                        I never understood the appeal of Springsteen.

                        Early Elvis was pretty good for a white guy. Later Elvis was frequently just plain embarrassing.

                        I was only joking

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                        • L Loki

                          https://www.npr.org/2019/03/26/706566556/bruce-springsteen-born-in-the-usa-american-anthem

                          An interpretation of what the song means.

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                          taiwan_girl
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                          #26

                          @Loki Thanks Loki. Interesting article.

                          Here is another Bruce Springsteen song related to Vietnam that I like, but written from the point of the wife back home.

                          "A Good Man is Hard To Find"

                          Link to video

                          I think Bruce Springsteen is one of my favorite US artists.

                          There is a famous Taiwan artist whom I also like called Wu Bai, who is called the Bruce Springsteen of Taiwan for his storytelling songs and long, high energy live shows. He was one of the first big modern artists to sing in Taiwanese and become popular (though he also sings in Mandarin Chinese also).

                          WuBai

                          Link to video

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            I never understood the appeal of Springsteen.

                            Early Elvis was pretty good for a white guy. Later Elvis was frequently just plain embarrassing.

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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Born in the USA:

                            I never understood the appeal of Springsteen.

                            Elvis never did much for me. I could appreciate his talent, his appeal, in an academic sort of way, but he never really moved me. Whereas I got Springsteen -- his drive, his un-slickness, his passion.

                            Can't explain it exactly.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              I never understood the appeal of Springsteen.

                              Early Elvis was pretty good for a white guy. Later Elvis was frequently just plain embarrassing.

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                              George K
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                              #28

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Born in the USA:

                              I never understood the appeal of Springsteen.

                              Same here. Never got it.

                              Some catchy tunes, but otherwise...meh.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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