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Safety of COVID vaccines

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
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    So how does that differ from other established vaccines such as the flu or any of the periodic vaccines for travellers?

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Offline
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      I'm not sure exactly what the conclusion tells me. Can you explain?

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • MikM Mik

        I'm not sure exactly what the conclusion tells me. Can you explain?

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        George K
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        @Mik said in Safety of COVID vaccines:

        I'm not sure exactly what the conclusion tells me. Can you explain?

        The way I read it, the incident of side effects, namely, myocarditis, guillian barre syndrome, and other things is higher than would be expected in a normal population.

        However, they also say that this is not rise to the standard of being worrisome.

        At the end, They have adjusted further studies be done.

        Still a study with 93 million people is impressive.

        I don’t pretend to know enough immunology to comment on the relative risks of these vaccines compared to other things that we get all the time. If I recall, Guillain-Barré syndrome can occur after normal flu vaccination.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Thanks. That’s relatively good news.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            My gut tells me it's a bit of a stretch to say that these were deaths CAUSED by the COVID vaccine.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              My gut tells me it's a bit of a stretch to say that these were deaths CAUSED by the COVID vaccine.

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              Renauda
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              @George-K

              I am sure are a few who will say their gut feeling said “told you so”.

              My gut feel says don’t believe it for a moment.

              Elbows up!

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                As I said, the incidence of adverse effects is certainly not zero.

                Guillan-Barre is more than twice as likely to occur. However, being an exceptionally rare disease (I've seen one), the dangers, imo, are overstated.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  There is a nurse where my wife works that suffered Guillan-Barre after getting the flu shot some years back. She was in bad shape for some time. When C19 hit she was among those exempted from the provincial mandate ordering health care workers to vaccinate.

                  Elbows up!

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                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2024/03/05/man-receives-hundreds-of-covid-19-vaccines/?sh=1257dae7e819

                    Scientists have studied the immune system of a man in Germany who claims to have received 217 Covid-19 vaccines.

                    The researchers were concerned that the man's immune system might have become exhausted with such frequent and numerous challenges with vaccines against the same virus, but they actually found the opposite.

                    Their analysis published in the journal Lancet Infectious Diseases found that not only did the man, 62, have a fully functional immune system, there were indicators that his immunity against the virus that causes Covid-19 was better than people who had just received a normal number of vaccines.

                    There is official evidence of the man having 134 Covid-19 vaccines of eight different types including mRNA vaccines over a nine-month period, although the man claims the amount to be 217 in total over 29 months.

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                      My MIL was diagnosed with GB, but I did not believe it for a minute. Her symptoms were completely atypical. i just think the guy didn't know what else to call it.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2024/03/05/man-receives-hundreds-of-covid-19-vaccines/?sh=1257dae7e819

                        Scientists have studied the immune system of a man in Germany who claims to have received 217 Covid-19 vaccines.

                        The researchers were concerned that the man's immune system might have become exhausted with such frequent and numerous challenges with vaccines against the same virus, but they actually found the opposite.

                        Their analysis published in the journal Lancet Infectious Diseases found that not only did the man, 62, have a fully functional immune system, there were indicators that his immunity against the virus that causes Covid-19 was better than people who had just received a normal number of vaccines.

                        There is official evidence of the man having 134 Covid-19 vaccines of eight different types including mRNA vaccines over a nine-month period, although the man claims the amount to be 217 in total over 29 months.

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                        @taiwan_girl

                        Their analysis published in the journal Lancet Infectious Diseases found that not only did the man, 62, have a fully functional immune system, there were indicators that his immunity against the virus that causes Covid-19 was better than people who had just received a normal number of vaccines.

                        According to some people and websites, he should now be a fully assimilated Borg drone.

                        Pleased to learn that is not the case.

                        Elbows up!

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